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Offline theblurr

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Which rear springs do I need
« on: December 08, 2011 - 09:18:50 PM »
Hey Fellers, I'm looking for some help on deciding which rear springs I need for my sons 74 challenger, 440, 4 speed. Someone told me to get the mopar XHD springs, Are they what we need and will the XHD springs change the ride height much? We were also thinking about getting a set of Caltrac bars for the new springs. Have any of ya'll used them, And will they work ok with the XHD springs?  Thanks Brent
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Re: Which rear springs do I need
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2011 - 10:14:06 PM »
I have '73 440, 4sp. I have no complaints with my Mopar XHD's. As for ride height, about an inch of tire is tucked up into the fender. Close to stock I figure.  Some people prefer springs that raise the rear up a bit. No caltrac experience.
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Offline 72bluNblu

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Re: Which rear springs do I need
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2011 - 02:08:45 AM »
I have XHD's on the back of my '72 Challenger, you can see the ride height in my signature. They pretty much maintain the stock ride height, although they are a little stiffer than stock springs.

I've also run Super Stock springs on my Challenger, those will raise the rear a bit, but they also require longer hangers. Hotchkis, ESPO, and a few others also make rear springs for E-bodies if stock isn't what you're looking for.

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Re: Which rear springs do I need
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2011 - 03:20:43 AM »
Mopar XHD  springs are madein Mexico & sag fast , I have installed 3 sets , all looked great when installed but months later the rear end was low . Espo/ springs & things have a better product

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Re: Which rear springs do I need
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2011 - 08:02:47 AM »
I used ESPO springs and am happy with them!  :2thumbs:
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Re: Which rear springs do I need
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2011 - 02:40:32 PM »
Mopar XHD  springs are madein Mexico & sag fast , I have installed 3 sets , all looked great when installed but months later the rear end was low . Espo/ springs & things have a better product

This is definitely true, my car started out being about an 1" or so taller than it sits now. But, I think if I add up all the time they've been on my car it works out to be over a year (which means ~10,000 miles), so the ride height on my car is pretty much where they end up. As long as you know that they're going to sag and put you back at stock ride height, its not a problem. They're a good spring rate, and that doesn't change.
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Re: Which rear springs do I need
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2011 - 03:38:25 PM »
My XHD's have been on for 15 years with little sagging. Maybe they were made in USA or Canada back then?
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Re: Which rear springs do I need
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2011 - 04:44:37 PM »
I put XHD's on my convertible when I did the 440 swap.  They were great sitting still but after the first few test runs they settled in really low.  I never liked the Chrysler "butt drag" stance so I used air shocks to get it back up.  This year I'm going to try SS springs to see if that cures the "butt drag".  If not it's custom leafs for me.
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Re: Which rear springs do I need
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2011 - 05:40:21 PM »
I'm on the Espo/springsNthings bandwagon.    :2thumbs:

I got an over stock lift and it has held. 

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Re: Which rear springs do I need
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2011 - 09:45:02 PM »
adding an extra main leaf with the eyes cut off seems to "fix" the XHD springs

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Re: Which rear springs do I need
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2011 - 09:54:36 PM »
My XHD's have been on for 15 years with little sagging. Maybe they were made in USA or Canada back then?

15 years ago the XHD was a great product.  Had a recently made set on my car for about a year before they sagged.  Now I used the Espo and couldn't be happier.
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Re: Which rear springs do I need
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2011 - 11:16:19 AM »
How are you planning on using the car, street, dual purpose, strip only? If you're considering cal-tracs, I'll assume dual purpose. Do you have a budget you have to stick to?

The Cal-tracs with mono-leafs are a nice set up.  I don't know that they are any "quicker" than a well set up set of SS springs, but they do look trick and are a bit lighter in weight. They will tend to be a bit more pricey

Super stocks are a proven performer. With a little bit of tuning, they can be awesome. Prices are not too expensive but they will require new hangers and extended length shocks. Their increased leaf count means they will ride a bit rougher and be quite a bit heavier than the cal-trac mono set up. 

XHD are a fair all around performer on the street but will not stand up well to regular drag strip use. I've installed several sets of these on my cars over the years and I've never noticed any excessive sagging issues on my cars, but they not designed to provide lift over stock and I expected them to slightly settle. Most new leafs will have a slight additional arc when new and will set into a position after some use. The better the spring, the less this settling amount will be. If your pushing a lot of engine torque through these and launch on a sticky track, you will need a pinion snubber to control the motion. These will probably be the most budget concious set up of the bunch.