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Offline 73_Challenger

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Pilot Bearing Pt. # I'm showing 2 different ones
« on: February 11, 2012 - 11:59:20 PM »
I've got a 73 challenger with a 1978 360 engine with and Auto, now going to a 4 speed, I'm coming up with 2 different mopar part #'s   for a Pilot Bearing

P4876056AA
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53009180AB

does anyone know which I need or are they the same, just one is a normal mopar # and the other listed as a P for the performace section
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Offline Jesus H Chrysler

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Re: Pilot Bearing Pt. # I'm showing 2 different ones
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2012 - 10:15:57 AM »
Going from auto to 4 speed isn't a simple thing.  First off, you need to make sure your 360 is able to be used with a 4 speed.  If you are using a factory Mopar 4 speed, the nose of the input shaft sits in the rear of the crank, supported by the pilot BUSHING you're looking for.  If your engine was originally built for an auto, it may not have been drilled out for the pilot bushing and the tranny simply won't bolt up.  Unfortunately you won't be able to know this until you pull them apart and examine the rear of the crank.

Once you do that, and say you do have a drilled crank, measure the inside diameter of the hole.  Then do a little research to make sure you get the size bushing you need.  By 78 they may have changed the bushing or it may have been a truck engine or something.  Better to confirm than get stuck with parts you don't need.  Btw, Mopar used a metal bushing back in the day, not the roller bearings you see today.

If you're using a non Mopar tranny (I have a Tremec) then they do have pilot BEARINGS that can be used.  The trannys are modified to have a shorter shaft and can be used with auto crankshafts.  Hope this helps, good luck.
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Offline 73_Challenger

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Re: Pilot Bearing Pt. # I'm showing 2 different ones
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2012 - 10:43:49 AM »
I read on some older post that no matter if auto or manual crankshaft it can be done that you just need like a Dokota pilot bearing??? and another post said that either way you can use a bearing not the bushing??? I was just hoping to get it fiqured out before I pulled the auto, I'm down to getting the last few part I need for the swap, I've been collecting them for the last 5 years, a few at a time so it didn't cost so much.

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Re: Pilot Bearing Pt. # I'm showing 2 different ones
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2012 - 11:53:57 AM »
The second one you have listed is the bearing you can use instead of the bushing. It will fit in your crank where a torque converter hub would fit.
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Re: Pilot Bearing Pt. # I'm showing 2 different ones
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2012 - 09:42:33 PM »
The second one you have listed is the bearing you can use instead of the bushing. It will fit in your crank where a torque converter hub would fit.


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