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Old School thought of Torsion bar dia: Drag Racing
« on: January 05, 2013 - 09:41:53 PM »
Many years ago, I talked to someone (can't remember who it was) that explained to me that high powered big block Mopars used in drag racing benefited more by using slant 6 torsion bars.

I guess the thinking was that with a low torsion rate; the bounce off would keep the front wheels off the ground after the launch  Thus the rear wheels would keep maximum torque at peak at inital stage.

Thoughts on this?
Mike, Fremont, CA.





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Re: Old School thought of Torsion bar dia: Drag Racing
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2013 - 09:58:51 PM »
Exactly right, my car originally had the small bars.  For drag racing you want weight transfer; the front end should lift giving you more traction during launch.

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Re: Old School thought of Torsion bar dia: Drag Racing
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2013 - 11:12:51 PM »
I know a guy w a 440 dart... that was a /6  the original bars are still in it for the above mentioned reason. Personally I would think really crappy handling ibn street drivability tho...
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Re: Old School thought of Torsion bar dia: Drag Racing
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2013 - 11:16:02 PM »
I know a guy w a 440 dart... that was a /6  the original bars are still in it for the above mentioned reason. Personally I would think really crappy handling ibn street drivability tho...

That's true!

Point here made is there is no compromise on front suspension if you want top E.T's.
if there is, I want to know.
Mike, Fremont, CA.


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Re: Old School thought of Torsion bar dia: Drag Racing
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2013 - 11:01:04 AM »
The idea with the small torsion bars is that they have to be cranked into a higher pre-load condition to support the big block weight and keep it up off the bump stops. When you launch the car, this pre-load helps pitch rotate the car backwards to provide a greater load on the rear tires and improve traction. Combined with a super stock leaf spring that lift under acceleration, and a properly set up mopar will appear to literally "jump" off the starting line.

Now, how important is that to drag racing? Depends on how tight your class is. If you're bracket racing, IMO, not very. If you are class racing, very important. My personal experience with that was demonstrated in two seperate cars, one set up as a canyon carver with higher rate t-bars and huge sway bars, the other with lightweight t-bars and no sway bars. The same engine/trans/gears/tires were used on both. The net result in e.t difference..1 second. The dedicated drag race ran 12.2, the canyon carver ran 13.2, both at 112 mph. Since the drag car never drove on teh street, I can't comment exactly on how its street manners were, but just driving the pits return road, etc, it had a lot of body roll, the rear rode rough and the front had potential to quickly bottom out. The other car, felt smooth and solid and by comparison, would feel confidence inspiring on the street where it could corner like a BMW.