hood gaps on new challenger may be uneven can someone check theirs for me ?

[model maker]

pass. side hood gap is narrow at the windshield and wider at the bottom, drivers side is wider at windshield and narrow at the front.  grab the sides of the  hood with both hands at the center pull your right hand down and push your left hand up kind of a slight  twisting motion and that looks like it would correct mine. my front hood edge driver side sinks down below the nose a little ( dealer noticed that ) then rises up evenly with the nose all the way across and then sinks a little at the pass. side edge. my windshield rubber at the top looks like yours on my pass. side but the driver side it lays lower exposing that roof seam edge where it provides a very small opening. I can see in your photos that your rubber is in front of that edge on both sides my driver side is 1/4 inch lower than yours on driver side. How about your door rubber trim in the area behind the mirrors ( where a wing window would be in older cars ) where it meets the pillar where door & fender / windshield meet ?  what do both of yours look like ?
BERT

[model maker]

Spamtank, what I get concerened about is water leaks I hate any kind of water leak in a car period. In freezing weather where I live if water gets into areas then freezes over night, that water expands to 5 times its mass which would be just like a pry bar pulling things apart or rusting something. I am seeing just how much plastic is in the challenger. What are those roof seams for anyway ? I see no point of them being there. Can you take some pictures of your door rubber trim on both sides so I can see how yours is routed along the door where it meets the rest of the rubber weather seals.
Bert

[spamtank]

I took a few of the driver's side but forgot to post them.

When I get back home I'll take a few of the passenger side.  I didn't notice anything odd on the drivers side.

I'll upload the rest of my photos and post a link to the album to photobucket for you to peruse.

I'd be worried about water leaks as well.  If it can crack engine blocks, sheet metal and plastic is no match.

[model maker]

Thanks spamtank I will look forward to seeing your pictures. OH hey, what about the black plastic section that you see when you open the hood ? the piece that runs the entire length from left to right & connects to each side. mine has a 1 inch gap where it doesn't attach very well to one side. I really want to see your door window rubber along the window & door  the spot you would rest your arm when your window is open. I really hope this stuff is normal for this car & that mine isn't one that I have to go through  a huge  legal hassle with the dealership.
Bert

spamtank could you also check the front nose of the car ? hold on to the center of the nose piece and see if it has any up or down movement in it. I can wiggle mine up and down a little maybe this is normal but I just have to know whats normal & whats not, thanks.

[spamtank]

Thanks spamtank I will look forward to seeing your pictures. OH hey, what about the black plastic section that you see when you open the hood ? the piece that runs the entire length from left to right & connects to each side. mine has a 1 inch gap where it doesn't attach very well to one side. I really want to see your door window rubber along the window & door  the spot you would rest your arm when your window is open. I really hope this stuff is normal for this car & that mine isn't one that I have to go through  a huge  legal hassle with the dealership.
Bert

spamtank could you also check the front nose of the car ? hold on to the center of the nose piece and see if it has any up or down movement in it. I can wiggle mine up and down a little maybe this is normal but I just have to know whats normal & whats not, thanks.

I'll break my response up into smaller chunks.

Here are the window rubber seals.

Both sides look consistent front to back. 

Driver's side window -  Front seal

Driver's side window - Rear seal


Driver's side B-Pillar seal


Driver's side - Rear seal inside view


Passenger's side window -  Front seal


Passenger's side window - Rear seal


Passenger's side - B-Pillar seal


Passenger's side  - Rear seal inside view

[spamtank]

Here's a link to a multitude of photos I've taken around the car. 

I still owe you some photos of the plastic cowl panel and I'll get a few of the hood gaps front and back. 

http://s980.photobucket.com/user/spamtank/slideshow/2013%20Challenger/Walkaround%20Photos

[spamtank]

Checked my hood gaps they were all pretty consistent, except for the height alignment in the middle of the passenger side which is a bit lower.

I took photos of the plastic cowl panel.  I couldn't see any gaps that were abnormal.  Here they are for you to check out:

Lower corner of windshield:


Lower corner of windshield:


Driver's side of plastic cowl panel:


Passenger's side of plastic cowl panel:


Overall cowl panel view:


I also grabbed nose and was able to move it up and down about 1/4" to 3/8".  It was floppier than I expected, just like your observation.  It felt like the outer skin was separating a bit from the top side of the grill ceiling (for lack of a better description).  But it returned right back to the correct location.

[71gogreen]

Sorry to see you having all these issues with your new car.I would take legal action if your still unhappy with your new car.Its time to take action against the dealership for selling you a repaired new car.Have the dealership contact a factory grievance representive and let them know your not happy with your purchase. I went through hell with my new car when I was 19 years old and learned a valueable lesson.Never ,Never sign any papers till you inspect the car first! Check out every square inch!

[model maker]

THANK YOU SPAMTANK ! I was looking at my cowl in front under the hood above the radiator and notice that on 1 side it is connected firmly into the side of the  fender but on the other side it is sticking out away from the fender & I can see the clips that should be clipped to that inner fender area. On the picture of your door windows the rubber part that comes from around the top of the window & goes down to the end where the triangle shaped rubber is at the end of the door glass the 1 picture you had shows yours to end right where mine does on my pass. side however, the driver side it stops  an inch higher. I am concerened with water getting in & past those seals but I don't think it can, I am hoping it cannot. they said the body shop will adjust the hood & fenders if the fenders are bolted to tight on one end. My tail light panel has a corner of the black plastic lifted away from the edge & looking at it I notice my 2 taillights have different gaps from the center light bar. it looks like my r-side light is right up against the edge possibly causing the plastic to pop away from the edge. My rear bumper section at the top corners have small gaps that I think water will get into ( not sure where that water would end up, mayby drain away ? ) the r-side is tight but the l-side has slight wiggle movement. your front windshield top rubber covers your front roof seams but my driver side does not. maybe I can find small pieces of rubber and glue a small patch . I think at highway speeds in rain MAY allow water to get into & under the seam edge where the smallest part of that seam has a small opening that the rubber is supposed to protect. if you lift the rubber edge you will see  what I mean. I don't like uneven gaps OR leaking water. I am going to be in constant touch with that body shop making DAMN sure they address all of my issues. I will have to point these things out to them and make sure they see them. I have spent several hours over several days finding these things. Some of these I never would have noticed but looking so close to onething, the other things start popping out at you. I appreciate all your help. the one picture of your driver window front lower corner left that very edge out of the picture & I couldn't see the forward edge of the tri angle rubber where it meets the pillar. I think these cars all have some uneven issues but unless you are going side to side comparing they may be hard to notice. I am also going to make sure that my entire car gets clay bar treatment as I wanted to wax my new car but found I couldn't because of the very tiny gains ( like pieces of sand ) all over the top surfaces. it is orange in color because I can see it on white paint. the dealership called it rail car fallout during shipping. I thought these cars were wrapped to protect the finish. one way or the other I will get the answers. My insurance co  AAA is 2 buildings down if I need to involve them. I am really hoping that the car did not have any damage but why paint touch up  in the front problem area My driver side wheel well inner liner was popped out at the lower front and I had to take  a 1X2 and rubber mallet and tap HARD to get it to pop back in behind the fender wheel well lip, I told them this also. the nose & fender at the center above the side marker light has an edge that has a ridge sticking out that they saw. maybe someone took that fender or nose off & put it back on and didn't seat the well liner correctly. I am sorry I am pestering you guys with this but i have no where else to turn other than the dealer and I am sure they are in a "COST CONTAINMENT" mode .
 Thank you  spam tank and everyone else who has replied, I will keep you all informed as what is happening over the next week as the car goes in Tuesday morning. the dealer is giving me a rental car. what gets me is the lady who is in charge ( or thinks she is ) told me on the phone after I took it in & they photographed it that chysler has " APPROVED" THE REPAIRS & RENTAL CAR"   APPROVED   they damn well had better have!!!

Bert