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Re: Just bought 70 Challenger...and it's (electrically) dead. Any suggestions?
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2014 - 08:16:03 AM »
Doing a volt drop on the cables will tell you if they're good or not.
Only while under load. ie, you have to be testing the v drop while trying to start the car.
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Re: Just bought 70 Challenger...and it's (electrically) dead. Any suggestions?
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2014 - 08:37:09 AM »

1) Connect battery and see 12 volts at the terminals, putting a voltmeter on the negative terminal and positive input at the wheelwell mounted solenoid I get 12.5 volts
2) Lights, radio, horn function
3) Turn key; starter whirs but doesn't actually turnover
4) All electrical then dies...I mean NOTHING.  No horn, lights, radio, nothing.  As if there is a completely dead battery.
5) Disconnect battery, wait somewhere between 15-30 minutes and reconnect battery, again have lights, horn, etc.
6) Turn key, everything dies again, NO POWER

Any thoughts on where to start?

Thanks!
A standing battery voltage of 12v is a bit on the low side. Should be a bit higher, but not your main problem at the moment.
Whirring but not turning over sounds like the starter bendix to me. Previous posts have mentioned checking out your battery/starter cables so I'll assume you checked them out.
If after the attempted start you have seemingly no power anywhere, you have corroded terminals/connections. Your fusible link will be good, but it's connectors may be corroded. Take apart and clean. Then take apart the bulkhead connectors and clean. They will most likely be crappy looking. Your column connector is less likely to be the problem but might as well take the two connectors apart and check their condition. When reassembling it would be beneficial to use a dielectric grease on them to help reduce future corrosion.
And as always with these cars, check your battery to rad support ground, and engine to firewall ground and make sure they are clean and tight.
Also as previously suggested, check the ammeter connections (with the battery disconnected)
Those steps should get rid of your 'disappearing' power  :cheers:
Scott
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2007.5 3500 6.7 Cummins Diesel, Anarchy tuned.
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Re: Just bought 70 Challenger...and it's (electrically) dead. Any suggestions?
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2014 - 08:42:33 AM »
Thanks, everyone. I'll start working through these tomorrow, starting with a closer inspection of cables, connectors, etc. and report back on the results.

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Re: Just bought 70 Challenger...and it's (electrically) dead. Any suggestions?
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2014 - 09:13:00 AM »
Doing a volt drop on the cables will tell you if they're good or not. Where is the neg. hooked up to?

No burned bulkhead connectors. Cables seem good according to multimeter. Ground cable runs from battery to A/C compressor mount. Is that factory correct?

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Re: Just bought 70 Challenger...and it's (electrically) dead. Any suggestions?
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2014 - 09:28:41 AM »
No burned bulkhead connectors. Cables seem good according to multimeter.

testing for continuity using a multimeter proves little when it comes to a heavy cables ability to carry high current
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Re: Just bought 70 Challenger...and it's (electrically) dead. Any suggestions?
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2014 - 02:54:42 AM »
 :cooldancing: SHE'S ALIVE!  :cooldancing:

Connector from the steering column to the bulkhead had some corrosion and the negative battery cable was old and only grounded to the AC compressor mount - no body ground.

New battery cables, cleaned up the connectors under the dash and at the bulkhead, started cranking....and she fired up!

Thanks to everyone for your expertise. Now the fun really begins!

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Re: Just bought 70 Challenger...and it's (electrically) dead. Any suggestions?
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2014 - 06:16:20 AM »
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Re: Just bought 70 Challenger...and it's (electrically) dead. Any suggestions?
« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2014 - 10:58:38 PM »
 :cheers:  And you did remember to use some dialectric grease in that connector, didn't you?  :thumbsup: