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Re: Lost a lash cap on my 340, now what?
« Reply #45 on: April 02, 2014 - 08:17:48 AM »
I actually suggested the springs could be bad or too light for the application earlier , anyway glad you found the problem , I would still run the lash caps . With the springs being to light the valves could have been late closing allowing slack between the rockers & valves causing them to hammer into the rocker arms instead of staying in contact at all times so the rocker failure was more likely to be effect not cause .

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Re: Lost a lash cap on my 340, now what?
« Reply #46 on: April 02, 2014 - 01:09:50 PM »
I actually suggested the springs could be bad or too light for the application earlier , anyway glad you found the problem , I would still run the lash caps . With the springs being to light the valves could have been late closing allowing slack between the rockers & valves causing them to hammer into the rocker arms instead of staying in contact at all times so the rocker failure was more likely to be effect not cause .

Sorry Neil! You sure did. I've got a couple threads going on different forums, I have a hard time keeping them straight sometimes. Your help is greatly appreciated!  :2thumbs:

Obviously I'll be taking a look at the geometry again with the new rockers, but I don't think I'll need the lash caps with the Crane's. The Harland's are spec'd for taller valves, I don't think the Crane's are. But I'll have to go through all of that again when I get the heads back, checking the pattern and measuring for push rods. My machinist is going to correct the valve height's, so I'll have to see how that turns out. It'd be nice not to have to order new push rods. But it'd be a lot nicer not to destroy another set of rockers, so I'll remeasure everything and see what I get.

I would have thought that the hydraulic lifters would have made all of this a bit easier, it's amazing that the factory could just slap on non-adjustable rockers, hydraulic lifters, and pretty much the same height pushrods on everything despite the range of build tolerances they had. But this was my first build, and although I tried to get everything right the first time its obvious I still have a few lessons to learn. Fortunately I went a different route with my second build by doing all of the assembly myself and using RHS heads, but you'd better believe I'll be double checking everything on it before it gets dropped in.

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Re: Lost a lash cap on my 340, now what?
« Reply #47 on: April 02, 2014 - 01:46:56 PM »
I am planning to do the top end on my 340 with Edelbrock RPM heads, hydraulic roller setup from Hughes and a Howards hydraulic cam after summer. I have done a lot of reading about the subject and will be taking little careful steps on this since I never replace heads and valve train before. Now reading what happen to yours I am getting cold feet and having second thought  :-\
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Re: Lost a lash cap on my 340, now what?
« Reply #48 on: April 02, 2014 - 06:33:25 PM »
I am planning to do the top end on my 340 with Edelbrock RPM heads, hydraulic roller setup from Hughes and a Howards hydraulic cam after summer. I have done a lot of reading about the subject and will be taking little careful steps on this since I never replace heads and valve train before. Now reading what happen to yours I am getting cold feet and having second thought  :-\

Why not let someone like Huges just set up your entire heads/valve train, and use their recommended components.
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Re: Lost a lash cap on my 340, now what?
« Reply #49 on: April 02, 2014 - 08:04:52 PM »
Why not let someone like Huges just set up your entire heads/valve train, and use their recommended components.

Mainly $ issue. Lets just get back and stay with the OP's post which I will for sure be following to see how things turn out and hopefully learn a few things.
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Re: Lost a lash cap on my 340, now what?
« Reply #50 on: April 02, 2014 - 08:07:57 PM »
I am planning to do the top end on my 340 with Edelbrock RPM heads, hydraulic roller setup from Hughes and a Howards hydraulic cam after summer. I have done a lot of reading about the subject and will be taking little careful steps on this since I never replace heads and valve train before. Now reading what happen to yours I am getting cold feet and having second thought  :-\
Personally I would use different heads like RHS , the core shift I have seen with the eddy heads is horrendous to say the least

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Re: Lost a lash cap on my 340, now what?
« Reply #51 on: April 02, 2014 - 08:38:07 PM »
Personally I would use different heads like RHS , the core shift I have seen with the eddy heads is horrendous to say the least

what does core shift mean?
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Re: Lost a lash cap on my 340, now what?
« Reply #52 on: April 02, 2014 - 08:41:27 PM »
Neil, have you worked with those Airwolf heads before? They look like the hands down winner for a SB?  :dunno:
I'm dreaming of a set of these and an aluminum block! :drool:
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Re: Lost a lash cap on my 340, now what?
« Reply #53 on: April 02, 2014 - 10:24:39 PM »
No , I have never worked with the airwolf heads , look good though !
Core shift means when cast nothing is in the correct place , the ports can be 1/4" off side to side & porting to line them up could put you into a water jacket , a friend bought Eddy heads but worked at the performance store & took his pick from 10 sets & he showed me some of the bad ones , very shoddy QC

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