After you guys are finished with all your hipe let me add to the conversation,price is always negotiable! I bought both cars to own one! Hoping to sell one so i could get mine cheaper? But the guy i bought them from wouldnt budge? So now im taking a chance to recoupe some money? No, i do not need the money ihave other cars as well! If i bought one i would have paid too much? So i bought both! Its a buying tactic? Im an honest and fair man,im not trying to screw anybody! I too have to sleep at night! When i was 15 i had a chance to buy a hemi cuda 71 . Add was in truck section of toronto star, my brother promised me a car as payment for working for him? We got in the honda civic and made are way to ajax ontario were a kid owned the car.we stopped for air presure in one wheel and when we got there two peaple were arguing over the car already! He was asking 6 k and got 8 k.i went through my whole life sulking about that car!!! If any body noes who bought it it would be be most appreceated!