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Carter 2bbl - dashpot stem not hitting actuating tab
« on: September 08, 2014 - 10:39:21 PM »
Noticed the dashpot stem on my carter 2bbl is hitting under the actuating tab. If moved up to contact tab, it falls below and doesn't contact the tab anymore on first touch of the throttle.

The stem wiggles around and easily falls out, is this normal or should it be firmly attached to the dashpot? Is there a way to adjust/fix this? New parts available? All I see is a way to move the stem in and out, not up to contact the tab...
« Last Edit: September 08, 2014 - 10:43:20 PM by dave73chally »
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Re: Carter 2bbl - dashpot stem not hitting actuating tab
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2014 - 10:46:16 PM »
It should npt be falling out !

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Re: Carter 2bbl - dashpot stem not hitting actuating tab
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2014 - 11:04:25 PM »
Found this on ebay, anyone know if it'll fit? I think my 73 2bbl should be part #6317sa but listing doesn't show compatibility  :dunno: 

http://m.ebay.com/itm/OE-Mopar-Jeep-AMC-Carter-BBD-Dashpot-J8127729-/331231439316
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Re: Carter 2bbl - dashpot stem not hitting actuating tab
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2014 - 11:14:38 PM »
They must be available. Scott Smith put a new one on my carb when he restored it.

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Re: Carter 2bbl - dashpot stem not hitting actuating tab
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2014 - 08:21:37 AM »
I just remembered I have a rebuilt 2bbl carb on there from rockauto. It's an autoline, part #c6036 so I'm not exactly sure how to find a dashpot for this now either...any suggestions?
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Re: Carter 2bbl - dashpot stem not hitting actuating tab
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2014 - 09:12:05 AM »
the pod on the right or left of pic?

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Re: Carter 2bbl - dashpot stem not hitting actuating tab
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2014 - 09:19:17 AM »
On the right
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Re: Carter 2bbl - dashpot stem not hitting actuating tab
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2014 - 09:36:49 AM »
Not absolutely positive on this but I've had a similar device on four barrels. It slows down the closing of the throttle plates so the engine doesn't die and is where your suppose to adjust the idle. On the ones I had you rotated the pod to bring it closer to the linkage (threaded in the bracket) for faster idle or away for slower, if your idle screws are turned in to far it might not make contact.
Is it possible the bracket is bent back?  as to what holds the stem in or why it would fall out I have no idea. 
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Re: Carter 2bbl - dashpot stem not hitting actuating tab
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2014 - 09:42:21 AM »
Yea I believe that's exactly what it's intended to do. I guess I'll pull the pod off tonight and see if I can fix it before looking for a replacement. The spring in the picture is tight against the base of the stem, mine is loose and able to be removed so that may be the issue  :dunno:
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Re: Carter 2bbl - dashpot stem not hitting actuating tab
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2014 - 09:44:10 AM »
The one on the right in Wade's picture was not used on 2-barrels in 73.  The choke pull-off is what I thought you were talking about.  Here is my restored carb.  As you can see, the choke pull-off is the only thing attached to it.




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Re: Carter 2bbl - dashpot stem not hitting actuating tab
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2014 - 10:00:06 AM »
This is what I have, it's not the same thing?  :clueless:

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Re: Carter 2bbl - dashpot stem not hitting actuating tab
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2014 - 11:17:13 AM »
Burdar, is there anything on your stock setup to ease the throttle down like the dashpot is intended to do? If not, any ill effects of just removing it and not replacing?
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Re: Carter 2bbl - dashpot stem not hitting actuating tab
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2014 - 11:26:35 AM »
Nothing.  What you see in my pictures is what I have.  This is an original 73 setup.  Where was your car purchased new?  It looks like you have the plastic bowl vent like 73's have.  They did away with that in 74.  I'm not sure why you have that extra valve.  I wonder if it was a California thing?  Personally, I'd try running without it.  If you have to have it, the one in your link looks like it might work.  You might have to reuse your original bracket.

Maybe it's a later 70's carb and the factory went back to the plastic bowl vent?  Maybe you can find out what it is by posting the carb numbers.  Are there numbers stamped in the base or is there a tag like mine?
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Re: Carter 2bbl - dashpot stem not hitting actuating tab
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2014 - 11:34:43 AM »
So I could remove the part I circled and that's all correct? I believe it removes with 2 screws at the front of the carb.



Do you experience any backfiring upon strong accel when you let off the gas, meaning the throttle snaps back too quickly? I've read that some have had this issue when removing the dashpot.
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Re: Carter 2bbl - dashpot stem not hitting actuating tab
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2014 - 01:14:50 PM »
Strong acceleration with a 2-barrel?  :roflsmiley:  No, I don't get any backfiring.  I'm curious what you carb is from.  If someone has a FSM, they could look and see if that carb is listed in there.