I have a non-mopar electrical question... can I put it here?

[BIGSHCLUNK]

Anybody with Hyundai experience here?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I will try to  explain this as best I can.
 I used to think my Veracruz (08) had a dragging starter. On occasions after starting I get this loud horrific screeching noise. This has been getting worse progressively. Sometimes it would stop in short order, other times if I would back the key off just a hair it would stop. As time went on I would get the same noise at times when shifting from D to N to R to P.... but ONLY in the N & P positions.


 This happened last evening when I parked at home after work. So to stop the noise (and grinding my starter??) I shut it off in D. Granted I can not shift to P with the switch in the off position. So I put the key in the "on" position. Not "start" but just "on"........... but she started anyway. Tried it again to make sure of what I was doing and got the same result.


 Do I need a new ignition switch?


 And if so. does the ecm/pcm need to be replaced along with it. I've had Toyotas in the past where you couldn't swap one without the other.


 Thanks
 BIGS
 

[dpcd67]

WTF? Can I say that here?

[blown motor]

That's Hyundia's universal code for "get rid of me and buy another Mopar" 

[BIGSHCLUNK]

 

[74 challenge]

I have had a few Hyundai's and electrical is certainly over my head but all of the dealer service manuals are availiable online, perhaps you can take a look at what's connected to what...

https://www.hyundaitechinfo.com/

you just need to make an account. helped me fix a few things on my old Accent and I'm sure I will use it on my new Accent.

[brads70]

Sure sounds like the switch Bigs, does it have a chip key?  I have no idea if you would also need to swap out the ecm?

[ammo]

Sounds like the mechanical part of the ignition switch is sticking.  If you don't have the immobilizer ignition , you can just replace the ignition switch and your good.  If you have the immobilizer ignition, it's gotta be flashed so your ECM will recognize it.   Call your local dealer parts dept and give them your vin and they can tell you which ignition you have.

[ShelbyDogg]

You've got a SLAVAGE YARD!

Can't you throw that Hyundai out and get another one out of the yard? LOL

[MOPAR FANATIC]

  Heh chris,try this web site,should be able to get your answer here.looks like it may be a common problem.

www.hyundai-forums.com/sitemap/f-196.html

  Dave.....................

good luck,to bad it's not a GM,may have been able to help you out there,don't know sqaut about hyundai's. 

[MOPAR FANATIC]

    looks like your already on there. line one right on the top.someone there should be able to help you out. 

[BIGSHCLUNK]

Dave the Hyundai website is worthless IMHO. I tried a little experiment over the weekend. We were down in Joliet for chase weekend. (Keep an eye on Kyle Larson he will be a well known in short order) Any way I took off the 9lbs of shop keys for the weekend, this helped a little.

I looked on rock auto (against my religion in most cases) there is an ignition switch available. Looks in the picture like you would use you original key & tumbler assy. The keys to this thing don't looked chipped, but I've been fooled before. I may just try it cause it makes sense to me  I would think if I can use my original key and tumbled noo reprogramming would be required. (?  )  Lord only knows what my starter drive and flywheel are looking like.    For those who don't know this truck (most don't, me included) its a Hyundai version of a Highlander. That's the closest match up I can think of. I had the truck at Andy's build party. Nice comfortable driver with room for tools/parts/dogs with good power and decent on gas. On the other hand I bought it at the auction.... you get what you get. 

[jimynick]

Chris, with the starter coming on as soon as you turn the key on, I'd also look at the starter. It sounds like it's dragging on engagement and disengagement possibly. With your connections, just get a starter and stick it in- you'll know right off the bar if that was it and it shouldn't be TOO big a PITA to swap out. Just my  Ian

[ShelbyDogg]

I would change the starter relay before the starter. The starter wouldn't engage without power.

At the relay it is basic troubleshooting. The relay gets power from the start circuit. It all leads back to the ignition switch. If you want to see if that is bad, use a test light on the start wire before changing anything.

[BIGSHCLUNK]

Rob, thanks for the tip, lord knows we got a million relays laying around here. The BIG thing I notice is that the starter will often engage when the key is in the "on" position...... not the "start" position. That is to say I'm sure it will in the start position but you rarely get that far.

[BIGSHCLUNK]

I just pulled out the starter relay, it took a little wrestling but I got it out. Starter kicked once in the process.... key in my pocket.