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Offline DocMel

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440 : Bent exhaust and intake pushrods on #1
« on: September 14, 2014 - 03:01:35 PM »
Dated 1968, 440 engine, 68 440 OEM heads, hydraulic lifters, mild cam. Basically a pretty much stock engine.  No valve train mods, Maybe 30K miles on it.  Had run like a sewing machine, no probs

Ironically, I was out on my last cruise up here in the rockies  before I store her for the winter

For about the last 100 miles I was hearing a very faint ticking.  Almost like a small header leak,  so I just let it go

I was idling at a stoplight and suddenly, the ticking got very, very loud, so I pulled over, stopped and had it towed back home  (Oil pressure went down slightly right before I shut her down (I run digital gauges), temp stayed in the norm

So today, I pulled the valve covers, saw nothing, then removed the intake ,manifold

The #1 cylinder pushrods, intake and exhaust, were bent. 

I removed the two, #1, hydraulic lifters.  I tried to collaspe the lifter centers on my bench by pushing down on the centers and they would not collapse.   So...............

1. Sound like the lifters (hydraulic) are shot?  (They removed from their lifter bores easily however, as they should)

2.  If they are bad, what caused it?

All the oil passages in the push rods and rockers look clear, (by flashlight)

I see no metal shaving in the valve train, lifter or intake valleys. 

Cursory inspection, for now, of the cam lobes for number 1 look OK

#1 stamped, both rockers, look ok

What happened here and what else should I look for?




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Re: 440 : Bent exhaust and intake pushrods on #1
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2014 - 03:30:55 PM »
Your lifters are full of oil, they won't collapse, they aren't supposed to.... To collapse them either you apply quite a bit of pressure for an extended period of time or you disassemble the lifter & drain the oil... Something else caused your bent pushrods... Last time I bent pushrods on a relatively stock engine I had wound it quite a bit tighter than I should have...
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Re: 440 : Bent exhaust and intake pushrods on #1
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2014 - 03:55:18 PM »
can you push down on the valves to see if they move? and not stuck in the guides? not sure just a suggestion
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Re: 440 : Bent exhaust and intake pushrods on #1
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2014 - 08:48:02 PM »
I would agree , the valves may have stuck , usually the exhaust valves stick as they run far hotter
 The lifters should be normal , they would compress slowly  in a vice but not by hand
The other thing to look for is broken or cracked valve springs

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Re: 440 : Bent exhaust and intake pushrods on #1
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2014 - 10:23:00 AM »
Did you ever find out what caused this? Pulled the head?  I've heard of mice getting into cylinders and filling them with "loot".

Maybe valves were open on #1 while parked?  Any rodent problem in this parking area?
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