Time for a build thread - 5.7 Hemi, T56

Author Topic: Time for a build thread - 5.7 Hemi, T56  (Read 13013 times)

Offline GoodysGotaCuda

  • Sr. Resident
  • ******
  • Posts: 5392
Time for a build thread - 5.7 Hemi, T56
« on: September 21, 2014 - 09:42:22 PM »
I suppose it's finally time to put together a build thread. Previously I dumped a bunch of effort into my Jeep, I have since sold it and decided to shine some light on the Barracuda!

The original 318/904 car needs some work, while it did me well with a best of 13.6 in the 1/4-mile, it was just not enough power. The car also needs some help with various areas, "T" area, rear frame rails, some floor repairs, etc. At the moment, the car is coming apart with the following tasks in mind.

Time Frame: ~2 years

  • - Drivetrain and interior teardown. Assess what areas need attention due to rust, primarily the rear frame rails, "T" area, front floors are what I am aware of that need repaired.
  • Vehicle rewire with aftermarket harness. With an aftermarket gauge cluster, an EFI setup going in, isolating charging circuit, headlights on relays...there isn't much left from the factory. I will be going through and rewiring the car with the wipers, ignition and turn signal switch remaining factory. The rest will be upgraded.
  • A 5.7 Hemi has been purchased and disassembled. I have the accessories for it, and need a few bits and pieces. The bottom end will go +0.020" with forged pistons, forged 6.1 rods and a forged 6.1 crank. The factory 03-08 5.7 heads will remain for the time being, but I will be upgrading the bump stick. The long-term goal with the engine is to super or turbocharge it, once the initial expense/labor of the current list is completed.
  • Adding Vintage Air A/C
  • The 904 is being replaced in favor of either a Viper T56 or a T56 Magnum transmission, depending on the deal that can be made.
  • The factory 8-3/4" rear axle will remain, I may remove the 3.91s once I take a look at my cruising rpm with the 0.50 6th gear.
  • I will be adding a complete USCarTool chassis stiffening kit. Subframes, torque boxes, inner-fender braces, radiator support
  • Engine bay clean up and respray. Once the A/C and Hemi stuff goes in I will patch up the excess holes and clean things up. I'll be shooting the engine bay and possibly the hood myself for the time being.
  • Minor exterior modifications. 'Cuda, "raisin bran" hood will be installed, likely 'Cuda or AAR style exhaust
  • Minor interior modifications. New headliner, necessary components to compliment the Vintage Air, losing the console for a standalone pistol grip, upgrade to digital speedometer


At the moment, that's my list!
Build Page: Goody's 'Cuda Build Page
1976 Dodge Warlock
1972 Barracuda - 5.7 Hemi + T56 Magnum

Wheel & Tire Specs:Link




Offline GoodysGotaCuda

  • Sr. Resident
  • ******
  • Posts: 5392
Re: Time for a build thread - 5.7 Hemi, T56
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2014 - 09:43:56 PM »
Here is what I'm starting with. 1972 318/904 car, original Lemon Twist yellow. I will have owned it for 10 years in Novemeber  :eek4:


Build Page: Goody's 'Cuda Build Page
1976 Dodge Warlock
1972 Barracuda - 5.7 Hemi + T56 Magnum

Wheel & Tire Specs:Link

Offline GoodysGotaCuda

  • Sr. Resident
  • ******
  • Posts: 5392
Re: Time for a build thread - 5.7 Hemi, T56
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2014 - 09:45:37 PM »
Took the running/driving car and started disassembly ~9/12/14.



Made some room in my 2 car garage. I had to get a storage unit and cut down my bench space



Prepped the driveline for removal




Build Page: Goody's 'Cuda Build Page
1976 Dodge Warlock
1972 Barracuda - 5.7 Hemi + T56 Magnum

Wheel & Tire Specs:Link

Offline GoodysGotaCuda

  • Sr. Resident
  • ******
  • Posts: 5392
Re: Time for a build thread - 5.7 Hemi, T56
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2014 - 09:51:10 PM »
I picked up a 5.7L Hemi that needs more work than what I was told. I have the accessories and a usable core, but the engine will need some head-work [or other heads] and boring to be usable. More than I expected to do, but it can be done nonetheless.




9/21/14

Engine/Trans/K removed



Whipped these up for rolling it around




Build Page: Goody's 'Cuda Build Page
1976 Dodge Warlock
1972 Barracuda - 5.7 Hemi + T56 Magnum

Wheel & Tire Specs:Link

Offline brads70

  • C-C.com Expert
  • ********
  • Posts: 18747
Re: Time for a build thread - 5.7 Hemi, T56
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2014 - 10:28:19 PM »
Sounds like fun!  :clapping: :2thumbs:
Brad
1970 Challenger 451stroker/4L60 auto OD
Barrie,Ontario,Canada
Proud to own one of the best cars ever made!!!!!

My restoration thread 
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=59072.0
 My handling upgrade post
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=73985.0

Offline Travis72

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 894
Re: Time for a build thread - 5.7 Hemi, T56
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2014 - 11:37:22 PM »
A great upgrade plan!  You car is already nice so this will really take it over the top.  You've already done some cool mods so I'm excited to see what you come up with during the upgrade.

Travis
72 Cuda

Offline dutch

  • Sr. Resident
  • ******
  • Posts: 6944
Re: Time for a build thread - 5.7 Hemi, T56
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2014 - 04:21:57 AM »
good to see you got started  :2thumbs:   looking forward to see your progress  :working: :cooldancing:
*** Bart ***

Offline brads70

  • C-C.com Expert
  • ********
  • Posts: 18747
Re: Time for a build thread - 5.7 Hemi, T56
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2014 - 08:09:45 AM »
Who's engine controller will you be using. Those things I found to be  :money:
Brad
1970 Challenger 451stroker/4L60 auto OD
Barrie,Ontario,Canada
Proud to own one of the best cars ever made!!!!!

My restoration thread 
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=59072.0
 My handling upgrade post
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=73985.0

Offline GoodysGotaCuda

  • Sr. Resident
  • ******
  • Posts: 5392
Time for a build thread - 5.7 Hemi, T56
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2014 - 08:18:51 AM »
Who's engine controller will you be using. Those things I found to be  :money:

Likely the MS3, ~$1300.

I'd probably need a new $400 carb, new couple hundred dollar carb intake, change to a distributor or have an ignition controller, etc etc. So it's not much more to keep it efi with a standalone vs carb.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2014 - 08:21:53 AM by GoodysGotaCuda »
Build Page: Goody's 'Cuda Build Page
1976 Dodge Warlock
1972 Barracuda - 5.7 Hemi + T56 Magnum

Wheel & Tire Specs:Link

Offline brads70

  • C-C.com Expert
  • ********
  • Posts: 18747
Re: Time for a build thread - 5.7 Hemi, T56
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2014 - 08:38:54 AM »
That's not so bad, last I heard it was over 2k.  Around here the "emissions police" view these swaps as extra income. Here you have to have EVERY part of the original emissions equipment for the year of the engine your using or they levy heavy fines for each part missing. And you now are subject to emissions standards of the year of the newer engine. Not fun!
Brad
1970 Challenger 451stroker/4L60 auto OD
Barrie,Ontario,Canada
Proud to own one of the best cars ever made!!!!!

My restoration thread 
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=59072.0
 My handling upgrade post
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=73985.0

Offline GoodysGotaCuda

  • Sr. Resident
  • ******
  • Posts: 5392
Re: Time for a build thread - 5.7 Hemi, T56
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2014 - 08:44:11 AM »

That's not so bad, last I heard it was over 2k.  Around here the "emissions police" view these swaps as extra income. Here you have to have EVERY part of the original emissions equipment for the year of the engine your using or they levy heavy fines for each part missing. And you now are subject to emissions standards of the year of the newer engine. Not fun!

I have heard that in some states, I thought it was emissions standards for the year vehicle. That sucks!

Here I just tell them I'll be driving it and I have 5 year tags with no inspection :)
Build Page: Goody's 'Cuda Build Page
1976 Dodge Warlock
1972 Barracuda - 5.7 Hemi + T56 Magnum

Wheel & Tire Specs:Link

Offline thedodgeboys

  • Resident
  • *****
  • Posts: 3633
  • ''Normal’s Overrated''
    • THE DODGE BOYS
Re: Time for a build thread - 5.7 Hemi, T56
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2014 - 08:16:14 PM »
Should be a fun build, I would use a car 5.7 the accessory's all mount down low for a cleaner look than the truck 5.7s.  :2cents:

Go Fast & Have Fun...
70 6.1 HEMI 6-speed Drop Top...

Offline GoodysGotaCuda

  • Sr. Resident
  • ******
  • Posts: 5392
Time for a build thread - 5.7 Hemi, T56
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2014 - 08:21:56 PM »
Should be a fun build, I would use a car 5.7 the accessory's all mount down low for a cleaner look than the truck 5.7s.  :2cents:




Yep, I won't be keeping that cover or intake.
Build Page: Goody's 'Cuda Build Page
1976 Dodge Warlock
1972 Barracuda - 5.7 Hemi + T56 Magnum

Wheel & Tire Specs:Link

Offline GoodysGotaCuda

  • Sr. Resident
  • ******
  • Posts: 5392
Re: Time for a build thread - 5.7 Hemi, T56
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2014 - 10:29:01 PM »
So my 1st 5.7L needed some cylinder work new heads, etc. I have another set of heads enroute, but when my friend called me saying he had a rebuilt [but disassembled..there's more backstory, but thats the short version] 5.7L from Chrysler that his work didn't need any more...I accepted his offer to drop it off.

 :grinyes:



I'll do a couple of things to that one and likely sell or part the 1st one I picked up.
« Last Edit: September 26, 2014 - 10:51:08 PM by GoodysGotaCuda »
Build Page: Goody's 'Cuda Build Page
1976 Dodge Warlock
1972 Barracuda - 5.7 Hemi + T56 Magnum

Wheel & Tire Specs:Link

Offline Chryco Psycho

  • Administrator
  • C-C.com Guru
  • *****
  • Posts: 36620
  • 70 Challenger R/T SE 70 tube Chassis Cuda now sold
Re: Time for a build thread - 5.7 Hemi, T56
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2014 - 10:36:05 PM »
Very cool  :2thumbs:
 I would definatly retain the EFI

Challenger - You`ll wish You Hadn`t