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Offline resq302

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Re: new pics of 4 door cuda
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2014 - 09:49:48 PM »

I would consider myself a master craftsman, if I could come close to this level of work. Dave is very lucky to have found someone who could craft metal for him to this level. I can't recall his name, I know Dave mentioned it over on the Charger site thread before he deleted it. If you recall his name, would be great to post it with his accomplishment. He certainly deserves the recognition.


I know Dave has been working on this car with Steve Been (spelling?) since the initial idea.  Dave has been doing a lot of the work on the car himself too such as cutting out the areas for the door handle openings, trimming the skin fold overs to get them straight, body putty, small details and measuring, cutting,  etc.  I think Dave and Steve are a great team.  One compliments the other as Dave has done multiple award winning cars by himself such as his Boss 302, his Firebird 400 Ram Air, 1987 Buick Grand National, etc.  Steve did a hell of a  job on the hammering and shaping the curved area of where the c post meets the roof.  I'm sure that Dave also has other people working on this car too.  When its finished, I'm sure we will see every detail come out.
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Re: new pics of 4 door cuda
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2014 - 10:14:07 PM »
I know Dave has been working on this car with Steve Been (spelling?) since the initial idea.  Dave has been doing a lot of the work on the car himself too such as cutting out the areas for the door handle openings, trimming the skin fold overs to get them straight, body putty, small details and measuring, cutting,  etc.  I think Dave and Steve are a great team.  One compliments the other as Dave has done multiple award winning cars by himself such as his Boss 302, his Firebird 400 Ram Air, 1987 Buick Grand National, etc.  Steve did a hell of a  job on the hammering and shaping the curved area of where the c post meets the roof.  I'm sure that Dave also has other people working on this car too.  When its finished, I'm sure we will see every detail come out.

Steve Been......sounds right! :2thumbs:

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Re: new pics of 4 door cuda
« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2014 - 10:44:16 PM »
Very cool project and this will be a true "One of One" for some time to come.  I remember Tom from ECS telling me about this when I ordered some stuff.
Can't wait for updates. :2thumbs: :2thumbs:

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Re: new pics of 4 door cuda
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2014 - 08:56:16 PM »
Apparently some of the repro panels Dave is using had some issues that needed to be addressed such as body lines not matching up or consistent throuhgout the panel. He ended up decided to use the top and bottom body lines for linear consistency and let the center body line meander throughout the length of the vehicle. The worst panel was about 3/16" apart in lining up but blocking the car after applying the spray poly really helped to manipulate and straighten the line. Dave said there will be a black side molding that runs down the center line so that will allow these slight discrepancies to be completely eliminated and unseen.

The hood of the car was NOT made by AMD. They did not have a flat Hood so they had to go with a different brand.  In keeping with the period corrrectness of the car, the hood had "crumple zones" so they welded metal strips to bridge the recessed areas and then appied a thin layer of body filler (over the welds) to make the repair invisible. The heat from welding those areas bowed the side profile of the hood almost a half inch! From what he typed over on another thread, it took a couple of hours to fix the warped incorrect curvature. He had to use a 1968 Hemi RT Coronet to remove the bowing from the center of the hood. Lowering the car from a lift onto the top of the hood apparently did the trick! (Pictured below) He said it took some nerve racking trial & error but it ended up working out perfectly. Personally, I would have been way too paranoid to be doing something like this!  Especially with a hemi car.  Maybe they needed the extra weight of the elephant in there!   :roflsmiley:

Dave says every gap throughout the entire vehicle is now consistent and within factory spec.  He said he will have pictures of the vehicle showing its complete gray color sometime next week.  I can't wait to see it in all one color!

crumple zones smoothed over



very rare "Hemi press"



hood all flattened out and lined up with fender lines





door gaps





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Re: new pics of 4 door cuda
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2014 - 09:51:48 PM »
Glad to see the updates.  Please wish Dave well and keep us up to date if you are able. 
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Re: new pics of 4 door cuda
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2014 - 05:53:36 PM »
Seems that Dave uploaded some new pics on the other site he is posting them on.  I think the progress is coming out REALLY REALLY good!  Far better than anything I could have ever done!  Appears to be block sanded and maybe one more shot of primer before the red color goes on.















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Re: new pics of 4 door cuda
« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2014 - 10:50:21 PM »
Amazing work

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Re: new pics of 4 door cuda
« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2014 - 09:58:30 AM »
It's such a looong car.  It's odd to look at it sometimes.

I really like it though.  That's is some amazing work alright.

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Re: new pics of 4 door cuda
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2014 - 10:10:04 AM »
I have no idea why anyone would do this but that is some awesome work.
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Re: new pics of 4 door cuda
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2014 - 10:28:07 AM »
It's such a looong car.

Cuda hunter-

What is your definition of long? 

Here are some stats that Dave posted on the other site.

Here are some dimensional comparisons of some stock Chrysler "sports" vehicles as they compare to our 4 Door Concept Barracuda. It is 4.5" longer than a stock 70 Challenger and 11.9" shorter than a 70 Charger!

1970 Barracuda/Cuda - 188" in Length

1970 Challenger - 191.5" in Length

1970 Road Runner - 202.7" in Length

1970 Charger - 207.9" in Length

1970 Barracuda 4 Door Concept - 196" in Length


Seems to be right in place with where the car would have been made size wise.  Lets face it, even the 4 door  B bodied cars were a little longer than the standard 2 door hard top.  From the above measurements, the 4 door cuda is only 8 inches longer than a 2 door cuda and 4.5 inches longer than the challenger 2 door sister car.

Greenfish-

My guess is that Dave and his crew wanted to do something different than the "run of the mill" typical restoration.

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Re: new pics of 4 door cuda
« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2014 - 11:10:54 AM »
I would CHOP THE ROOF LINE And get rid of the door posts. I think it would look 100% better.

But I like the Idea. Awesome work.


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Re: new pics of 4 door cuda
« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2014 - 11:45:05 AM »
I had seen the truly short distance difference on a previous post.  It just looks long to my eye when I see it.  Mostly just because I am not used to this car with four doors.

I'm actually a 4 door guy.  I've had many Pontiacs with more doors.  So I really  like what he's doing.
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Re: new pics of 4 door cuda
« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2014 - 11:46:42 AM »
right now that roof line/door post looks like a 4 door dodge coronet

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Re: new pics of 4 door cuda
« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2014 - 12:17:00 PM »
I can see where it might share some similarities of the roof line, however, the C post area is completely different as well as the top part of the door skins having a different swept shape.  Lets face it, 90% of all 4 door cars will share the window frame sections just because of the car having 4 doors and the windows needing some kind of framework to hold the weather stripping in.

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Re: new pics of 4 door cuda
« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2014 - 01:38:38 PM »
I can see where it might share some similarities of the roof line, however, the C post area is completely different as well as the top part of the door skins having a different swept shape.  Lets face it, 90% of all 4 door cars will share the window frame sections just because of the car having 4 doors and the windows needing some kind of framework to hold the weather stripping in.

absolutely...BTW was not knocking the car...just pointing out similarity-I think it will be cool & unique! :cooldancing: