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Re: 71 Cuda value Back on track....
« Reply #46 on: January 02, 2015 - 02:18:26 PM »
Hahaha according to the research in your article there, only 5% less gen y people (90% vs 95%) are using cars for their transportation needs, not exactly a staggering number, especially when u consider the current green movement and push towards alternate transportation
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Re: 71 Cuda value Back on track....
« Reply #47 on: January 02, 2015 - 05:09:15 PM »
hehe
You can sure tell where the writer is coming from.
I especially love the statement that millenials value "experiences more than things"
Like laptops, big screens and video games arent "things".
I think it confirms my theory the tendency is more for urban kids that have mass transit available to them or everything they "need" within walking/bike distance, but also makes sense that a lot of kids arent finding decent jobs either. Kids more likely to still be living in their parents basements into their 30s  :dunno:
Regardless, I agree there will still be enough "kids" to maintain a collector car market for the forseeable future.
To me a kid is anyone under 30  :bigsmile:
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Re: 71 Cuda value Back on track....
« Reply #48 on: January 02, 2015 - 05:12:44 PM »
hehe
You can sure tell where the writer is coming from.
I especially love the statement that millenials value "experiences more than things"
Like laptops, big screens and video games arent "things".
I think it confirms my theory the tendency is more for urban kids that have mass transit available to them or everything they "need" within walking/bike distance, but also makes sense that a lot of kids arent finding decent jobs either. Kids more likely to still be living in their parents basements into their 30s  :dunno:
Regardless, I agree there will still be enough "kids" to maintain a collector car market for the forseeable future.
To me a kid is anyone under 30  :bigsmile:
                                                                     :iagree:  Yep well said.  :2thumbs:

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Re: 71 Cuda value Back on track....
« Reply #49 on: January 06, 2015 - 10:31:34 AM »
I'm a Gen X'er and can tell you the bottom line is because crap is getting more and more expensive.  The value of a dollar for baby boomers was a joke compared to today.  It was a lot easier for people to buy nicer things and afford vehicles back then.  The cost of everything has outpaced the value of a dollar by a landslide so newer generations have no choice but to look for cheaper alternatives.  Everything is more expensive and everyone wants our money. Local taxes go up, gas taxes go up, federal taxes go up, new healthcare "tax" (cough cough), college now costs 50k a year, row homes are over 100k and the list goes on.  How in the heck can a 17 year old afford a car making 9 bucks an hour when the gov't takes half and the other half doesn't even cover books for college.  This study is in regards to transportation as well which is a completely different case than a collector car market.  There isn't one kid today who would turn down a muscle car if given the chance because the bus was "greener".  The collector car market and the wants of those in it can not be measured by a transportation study, two completely different uses and driving factors.  The desire for these cars is and always will be there.  It will only be limited by those that can afford them and at what age they can do so.

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Re: 71 Cuda value Back on track....
« Reply #50 on: January 06, 2015 - 11:10:23 AM »
I'm a Gen X'er and can tell you the bottom line is because crap is getting more and more expensive.  The value of a dollar for baby boomers was a joke compared to today.  It was a lot easier for people to buy nicer things and afford vehicles back then.  The cost of everything has outpaced the value of a dollar by a landslide so newer generations have no choice but to look for cheaper alternatives.  Everything is more expensive and everyone wants our money. Local taxes go up, gas taxes go up, federal taxes go up, new healthcare "tax" (cough cough), college now costs 50k a year, row homes are over 100k and the list goes on.  How in the heck can a 17 year old afford a car making 9 bucks an hour when the gov't takes half and the other half doesn't even cover books for college.  This study is in regards to transportation as well which is a completely different case than a collector car market.  There isn't one kid today who would turn down a muscle car if given the chance because the bus was "greener".  The collector car market and the wants of those in it can not be measured by a transportation study, two completely different uses and driving factors.  The desire for these cars is and always will be there.  It will only be limited by those that can afford them and at what age they can do so.

Couldn't agree more
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Re: 71 Cuda value Back on track....
« Reply #51 on: January 06, 2015 - 11:21:31 AM »
I completely disagree. Quality restorations of original numbers matching cars are still selling very well and prices are still on the rise.
I agree, clone cars or modified cars will never bring good money again.

I was just involved in a sale of a 1971 Cuda that needs a full restoration. It was bought for over $100K as is by a very experienced car collector. It will take another $60K for the restoration.

In the past 2-3 years I've sold a couple of high end original cars for real decent money.

The quality of restoration as well as originality and documentation play a huge roll in price. :2cents:


I agree with Alans above statement. I don't think you will ever see the high dollar for clones or modified cars again. Sad to say my car is highly modified. I didn't go into the project of getting it back on the road with dollars in my head. I probably made a few bad decisions, ie - building and installing the Hemi, but I didn't do anything thinking it would get me more money for the car on the back end. No plans on selling as of yet, but with the kids getting ready for college very soon I most likely need to sell some toys. I certainly wasn't in it to make money but I do hate losing money. You can never predict the future.....

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Re: 71 Cuda value Back on track....
« Reply #52 on: January 06, 2015 - 11:44:16 AM »
Chris...your car will always hold a strong value.  :drool:

It's the clones where people took a 318 convertible, dropped a Hemi into it and expect to get $200K...those are the cars hardest hit.
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Re: 71 Cuda value Back on track....
« Reply #53 on: January 06, 2015 - 03:21:35 PM »
I agree, the modified cars, tributes, clones etc... will maintain a respectable value but you won't see crazy numbers.  For example, my 74 cuda was completely restored, has the billboards and color I love, may not have all the details to clone a 71 but is what I like.  Nearly everything is new, I can drive it for what I need, I couldn't build it for what I paid and I gave about 28k for it.  This price to me is driven in part by what you can find comparable.  For example. Could I touch a REAL 71 cuda in that shape for that price? Not a chance in hell !!! What are new "muscle cars" going for?  Decent ones are pushing 35-40k but to me are completely different that the "collector cars" we're talking about.  So I think these "clones" or modded cars will follow the same curve as the high end cars but not nearly as extreme.  Basically, if the numbers matching cars go up I think the clones will go up.  However, where a numbers car may go from 80k to 100k a clone might go from 28k to 32k.  The clones and modded cars are there for the people who love everything about the originals, understand what they're getting but can only afford the full experience of owning one without the papers and tags.  Not saying I wouldn't love to have the paper and tags but I'm still in the middle group who are just entering the collector market.  I'll be the one driving the prices up again in 20 years lol.

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Re: 71 Cuda value Back on track....
« Reply #54 on: January 15, 2015 - 02:26:36 AM »
long debate. just finished a 73 number matching cuda, 340 4sp car. black with white top.  had to spend the money in respect of the car. Value??

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Re: 71 Cuda value Back on track....
« Reply #55 on: January 17, 2015 - 12:37:55 PM »
Chris...your car will always hold a strong value.  :drool:

It's the clones where people took a 318 convertible, dropped a Hemi into it and expect to get $200K...those are the cars hardest hit.


Maybe not $200k, but close:

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1970-PLYMOUTH-CUDA-CONVERTIBLE-180230

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Re: 71 Cuda value Back on track....
« Reply #56 on: January 17, 2015 - 12:56:42 PM »
Yeah 440/6 car to boot - big money!

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Re: 71 Cuda value Back on track....
« Reply #58 on: January 17, 2015 - 01:44:11 PM »
Yeah but who wants a 383 car.... :poopoke: I think it boils down to - 71 cuda - either 440/6 or hemi - 4 spd and the right colour and a close to original restoration as a clone, not a resto-mod and it will sell for good money. :dunno:

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Re: 71 Cuda value Back on track....
« Reply #59 on: January 17, 2015 - 03:11:35 PM »
Crazy when you can get a real BS27N1 for cheaper... http://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1971-PLYMOUTH-BARRACUDA-CONVERTIBLE-181402


That is actually a BH27N1 car.  Rare, but not even a real 'Cuda bringing six figures!  Dang, maybe I shouldn't have sold my REAL 'Cuda 'vert.

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