Author Topic: 70 Challenger Conv. Resto Mod-6.1 Hemi  (Read 60564 times)

Offline soundcontrol

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Re: 70 Challenger Conv. Resto Mod
« Reply #105 on: January 01, 2016 - 04:09:12 PM »
Well, 2016 didn't start out great, I spent hrs cutting and welding the rear wheels of my cart for the body together, used my old leaf spring hangers for the rear body mounts. Efter painting them and trying to get them on the car I find out that I welded them on upside down! The 4 bolt pattern is not symmetrical, the 2 lower bolts are wider apart, so they do not fit this way. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:



And I even drilled some extra holes for more weld area!

And I'm now out of gas in the TIG, shop opens monday....
Oh well, do it again, and do it right.
« Last Edit: January 01, 2016 - 04:11:31 PM by soundcontrol »
/ Ken
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Re: 70 Challenger Conv. Resto Mod
« Reply #106 on: January 01, 2016 - 04:31:36 PM »
Well.....    :-(

Use the time with no gas to take them apart and prepare for the reassembly.

Positive I take from this is now you got the bad out of the way early in the year. It's all uphill from here.

Mike.
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Re: 70 Challenger Conv. Resto Mod
« Reply #107 on: January 01, 2016 - 05:09:44 PM »
I hate using old front hangers because I modify them into 1" offset hangers. I just welded on a flat plate and drilled 4 holes for bolts.
Too bad about running out of gas. I've learned to tack and fit everything now because of the exact same issue as you.
Rob

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Re: 70 Challenger Conv. Resto Mod
« Reply #108 on: January 02, 2016 - 03:08:58 PM »
YellowThumper is right, take the time and focus on working somewhere else...  :working:

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Re: 70 Challenger Conv. Resto Mod
« Reply #109 on: January 02, 2016 - 05:27:31 PM »
Fixed the problem today, put a few tacks and testfitted first, like ShelbyDogg suggested. Will do that with everything from now, its very easy to screw up welding parts together. I could actually weld for about 15 minutes with the gas indicator on 0, so I managed to weld them up.
Now, my wheels are no good, rubber is too soft, even though they are classified for the weight, so I need to change wheels, very hard to roll the car. It's gonna go on my rotisserie soon, I will not use this cart right away, the rotissery wheels are good, hard rubber, rolls easy.
/ Ken
Restoration thread: http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=102525.0
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Re: 70 Challenger Conv. Resto Mod
« Reply #110 on: January 02, 2016 - 07:04:44 PM »
Yeah, I weld with my gauge on "0" as long as my flow valve ball is still floating to my set flow. If I have a lot of welding to do, I will go ahead and get a filled one.
Rob

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Re: 70 Challenger Conv. Resto Mod
« Reply #111 on: January 26, 2016 - 05:00:50 PM »
A little bit of progress, up in the rotisserie, now I'm gonna put my son on removing all the undercoating, he promised he would clean the whole car under if he got an X-box, we'll see how long he'll last :)
/ Ken
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Re: 70 Challenger Conv. Resto Mod
« Reply #112 on: January 26, 2016 - 05:36:19 PM »
good luck with that!!! lol. My daughter actually removed the undercoating on my Cuda; once I figured out that a torch and putty knife were the hot ticket it went pretty fast.
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70 Challenger RT 440-6 EFI, 73 Cuda 416-6 EFI
05 Hemi Durango, 01 Ram 4x4, 14 Ram 2500 4X4, 10 PCP Challenger 6 spd RT, 01 Viper GTS ACR, 52 B3B w/330 Desoto Hemi, 70 Hemi RR (under const)
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Re: 70 Challenger Conv. Resto Mod
« Reply #113 on: January 26, 2016 - 05:44:04 PM »
good luck with that!!! lol. My daughter actually removed the undercoating on my Cuda; once I figured out that a torch and putty knife were the hot ticket it went pretty fast.


Yep, it come off like butter with a torch, I'm gonna try a heat gun also this time.
/ Ken
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Re: 70 Challenger Conv. Resto Mod
« Reply #114 on: January 27, 2016 - 06:18:38 AM »
I used a pneumatic scraper from Harbor Freight to remove the undercoat.  Quite loud and annoying so wore ear plugs and muffs but it date a great job.

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Re: 70 Challenger Conv. Resto Mod
« Reply #115 on: January 27, 2016 - 03:32:00 PM »
I nave used A heat gun, worked grate. then some used lacquer thinner and rags to finish the job. :working: :2cents:

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Re: 70 Challenger Conv. Resto Mod
« Reply #116 on: January 27, 2016 - 05:27:46 PM »
I have tried a lot of techniques, the torch and scrapper were by far the fastest and cleanest. It tends to leave little residue and the UC comes off in big chunks allowing you to sweep it up easier, also it doesn't hurt the sheet metal at all.
Current Mopar
70 Challenger RT 440-6 EFI, 73 Cuda 416-6 EFI
05 Hemi Durango, 01 Ram 4x4, 14 Ram 2500 4X4, 10 PCP Challenger 6 spd RT, 01 Viper GTS ACR, 52 B3B w/330 Desoto Hemi, 70 Hemi RR (under const)
Past Mopars
9 x Challengers. AAR Cuda, 4 RR, 2 GTX, 4 Chargers, etc... (too many to list)

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Re: 70 Challenger Conv. Resto Mod
« Reply #117 on: January 27, 2016 - 08:26:06 PM »
Butane torch and putty knife worked great on my 'Cuda.
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda.  Matching numbers 440 U Code, 4 speed pistol grip, Rallye dash, AM 8 Track, Shaker hood, 15 inch rallye wheels, Dana 60 4.10, Super Track Pak.  One of 134 - 440 "U" coupes codes built in 1970 and one of 100 - 440 Super Track Paks built in 1970.

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Re: 70 Challenger Conv. Resto Mod
« Reply #118 on: January 27, 2016 - 09:22:39 PM »
I used MAP gas and a putty knife.
Current Mopar
70 Challenger RT 440-6 EFI, 73 Cuda 416-6 EFI
05 Hemi Durango, 01 Ram 4x4, 14 Ram 2500 4X4, 10 PCP Challenger 6 spd RT, 01 Viper GTS ACR, 52 B3B w/330 Desoto Hemi, 70 Hemi RR (under const)
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9 x Challengers. AAR Cuda, 4 RR, 2 GTX, 4 Chargers, etc... (too many to list)

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Re: 70 Challenger Conv. Resto Mod
« Reply #119 on: January 27, 2016 - 10:23:44 PM »
I have tried a lot of techniques, the torch and scrapper were by far the fastest and cleanest. It tends to leave little residue and the UC comes off in big chunks allowing you to sweep it up easier, also it doesn't hurt the sheet metal at all.


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Heat volume is what worked best.
These can put out alot of flame so you have to dial it back quite a bit.

http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=torch
Mike, Fremont, CA.