Burning oil/ could it be valve seals or guides

[Kevin71]

They pulled the engine but I don't think they did anything to it.  As far as the jets go they said the changed them.  But I don't really know.  I will have to take a look at the carb I guess also.  I am thinking that he did something with the jets as he was telling what was in it.  I don't he could have just guessed. 

[734406pk]

Ok, well it is what it is. Post the results of the compression tests when you can. Is this a street 522 built for pump gas?

[moper]

I think the best scenario at this point is to pull it and give it to a reputable shop that you can work with. There could be reasons why it's using oil that are reasonably easy to address: rings not seated, 2nd ring upside down, oil rings not asembled right... But there also might be other stuff too that would require more in-depth investiagtion and repair - like re-honing or going through the heads. Given the compression testing results I'm not sure going it alone you can solve these problems. 

[734406pk]

I think the #1 cylinder wet reading was high due to extra oil. I would do a full retest before any making a major decision.

[Kevin71]

Yes it is a 522 built to run on pump gas.  Ever time I take this thing to someone it comes back not right.  I have had this car in 5 shops over the past 5 years.  I have got 65 grand into this car at this point.  I can't afford to keep taking it to people.  They all say the same thing.  Yea I can fix it, then it sits for months and then they say it's fixed and right back to square one. Or it is something else.  I think the only way I am going to get it right is I am going to have to learn what needs to be done I do it myself.  I bought the motor as a crate engine from  Carolina motors.  They sent a new carb back with the motor.  They said couldn't be the one dyno'd with it as they couldn't ship one that has had gas in it.  So they send a new carb in the box and I guess the jets were 90 94 in it.  Took to a shop had them start it and tune it, but I guess they didn't think it was important that it ran real rich.  I still haven't gotten a chance to work on it.  Hopefully tomorrow.

[734406pk]

Hi Kevin71- I agree with you 100%. You need to troubleshoot yourself as some people will take your money and offer little or no help. Thanks for the engine info, I thought is was a CME engine but didn't get to ask. I'll give them a call tomorrow and get some specs on that street engine. Meanwhile accurate compression readings will be a great help. You may need to borrow or buy a accurate gauge, but let's see. Post readings when you get a chance. Don't get discouraged!

[Kevin71]

My wife the smart one convinced me to call CME and ask what they would charge to go thru the motor, new bearings, rings, valve seals, tune the carb.  With shipping they said they would do it for around 1300, provided it's something else.  So I think that may be the best way to go. 

[Strawdawg]

sounds smart to me

[734406pk]

My wife the smart one convinced me to call CME and ask what they would charge to go thru the motor, new bearings, rings, valve seals, tune the carb.  With shipping they said they would do it for around 1300, provided it's something else.  So I think that may be the best way to go.

I spoke with CME today and they send a yellow dyno sheet out with the engine that has the carb jetting specs included. Not sure if the new carb had the specified jets installed when it was sent out. If they were not changed, the over rich fuel mixture can dilute the oil causing oil consumption and resultant engine damage. I have bought engines from CME in the past and can say they are a Professional operation with trained techs using state of the art equipment. If you can't get competent service locally, sending the complete engine back to CME would be your best choice. Good Luck!

[Kevin71]

Looked over the yellow sheet and can't find jetting anywhere.  Says what carb is recommended but nothing on jets.  You live you learn.

[Strawdawg]

it does not sound like jets to me...more like a stuck float, or such..takes a lot of fuel to wash down the cylinder walls

[734406pk]

Can't be sure that the cylinder walls have been washed down or if there is any engine damage. What weight oil was in the engine? Did the engine consume all but the last 1 1/2 qt gradually over 1500 miles or in the last 2 to 300? Could there have been an external oil leak? There seems to be 2 basic choices. Take the engine out and send it to CME for repair, or reassemble the engine using the correct intake manifold gaskets, new plugs, correct carb jets and refill with the recommended lube oil. Drive the car and monitor for oil consumption etc. If you have a problem with the engine, then send it to CME if needed. What are your thoughts?

[moper]

My wife the smart one convinced me to call CME and ask what they would charge to go thru the motor, new bearings, rings, valve seals, tune the carb.  With shipping they said they would do it for around 1300, provided it's something else.  So I think that may be the best way to go.

As much as I respect you for wanting to do it yourself to make it right - I'm not sure you have the knowledge or experience. That's an observation - not meant as a cut or with any malice. That was why I commented as I did. I'd say the wife's got good common sense and it's a solid course of action.

[734406pk]

As much as I respect you for wanting to do it yourself to make it right - I'm not sure you have the knowledge or experience. That's an observation - not meant as a cut or with any malice. That was why I commented as I did. I'd say the wife's got good common sense and it's a solid course of action.

Nice words! I think that if CME can go through the engine for 1300, that's quite a deal considering what needs to be done. Regretfully I can't determine if this course is necessary (if you decide to go this route). CME are good people and stand behind there products. Good luck!

[Kevin71]

I am sending it back to CME.  I have everything unbolted.  Can a plate that bolts to the manifold over the carb hole  be used to pull this engine.  Doesn't seem like much holding it on but 4 small bolts?