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Stock Suspension Equals Wheel & Tire Size Help
« on: January 10, 2015 - 12:25:46 PM »
I read through the tire combo post a few times but I just need to be sure.

Will the following fit my 1972 Dodge Challenger Rallye with stock (restored with new parts) suspension?

Front: 17 x 8 wheels BS 4.25" with tires at 245/45R/17

Rear:  17 x 9 wheels BS 5" with tires at 275/40R/17

I would prefer not to do any modification to the suspension.  These would be the Year One Rallye wheels.

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Re: Stock Suspension Equals Wheel & Tire Size Help
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2015 - 07:00:08 PM »
Dont see why not, a little less BS on the rears maybe better,
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Re: Stock Suspension Equals Wheel & Tire Size Help
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2015 - 07:53:03 PM »
Yea, you might need a B-Body rear to pull off that 5" backspace.


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Re: Stock Suspension Equals Wheel & Tire Size Help
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2015 - 12:32:43 AM »
I read through the tire combo post a few times but I just need to be sure.
Will the following fit my 1972 Dodge Challenger Rallye with stock (restored with new parts) suspension?
Front: 17 x 8 wheels BS 4.25" with tires at 245/45R/17
Rear:  17 x 9 wheels BS 5" with tires at 275/40R/17
I would prefer not to do any modification to the suspension.  These would be the Year One Rallye wheels.
Thanks.

That is the exact setup I am running without any mods to the suspension on my 'Cuda.
Year One Part Number: MRWSL1
Front: 17 x 8 wheels BS 4.25" with tires at 245/45R/17
Rear:  17 x 9 wheels BS 5" with tires at 275/40R/17
Firestone Firehawk Wide Oval Indy 500 tires from Tire Rack.  :2thumbs:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Firestone&tireModel=Firehawk+Wide+Oval+Indy+500&partnum=74WR7FHWI5&i1_Qty=2
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Firestone&tireModel=Firehawk+Wide+Oval+Indy+500&partnum=445WR7FHWI5&i1_Qty=2

For your 72, I guess you would want Acorn Centers though: Part Number: MRWSL2

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Re: Stock Suspension Equals Wheel & Tire Size Help
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2015 - 04:04:33 AM »
A B Body rear has its springs 1" inboard compared to an E Body however the axles are only 3/4" shorter approx, so by going to a B Body diff only gives you roughly 1/4" more wheel clearence than an E body housing. what it does give you is a wider wheel or more guard clearance.
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Re: Stock Suspension Equals Wheel & Tire Size Help
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2015 - 11:10:15 AM »
That is the exact setup I am running without any mods to the suspension on my 'Cuda.
Year One Part Number: MRWSL1
Front: 17 x 8 wheels BS 4.25" with tires at 245/45R/17
Rear:  17 x 9 wheels BS 5" with tires at 275/40R/17
Firestone Firehawk Wide Oval Indy 500 tires from Tire Rack.  :2thumbs:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Firestone&tireModel=Firehawk+Wide+Oval+Indy+500&partnum=74WR7FHWI5&i1_Qty=2
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Firestone&tireModel=Firehawk+Wide+Oval+Indy+500&partnum=445WR7FHWI5&i1_Qty=2

For your 72, I guess you would want Acorn Centers though: Part Number: MRWSL2
On Year One web site these are the tire sizes they have verified will fit a stock suspension and brakes with the wheel sizes I have chosen.
Now I have to decide do I go this route or the Magnum 500's with 15x7's and 15 x8's.

Mr. CudaRagTop do you have any pics of the rear look?

Thanks.

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Re: Stock Suspension Equals Wheel & Tire Size Help
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2015 - 09:51:21 PM »
On Year One web site these are the tire sizes they have verified will fit a stock suspension and brakes with the wheel sizes I have chosen.
Now I have to decide do I go this route or the Magnum 500's with 15x7's and 15 x8's.

Mr. CudaRagTop do you have any pics of the rear look?

Thanks.

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Re: Stock Suspension Equals Wheel & Tire Size Help
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2015 - 11:05:58 AM »
Looks great!  I am going to go with the acorn centers that originally came on the car with your exact specs.

Thanks again.

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Re: Stock Suspension Equals Wheel & Tire Size Help
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2015 - 05:14:41 PM »
B-Body Rear with 15x10 Rim



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Re: Stock Suspension Equals Wheel & Tire Size Help
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2015 - 06:35:44 PM »
These are 18x10 on rear with 5 1/2" BS (these rims are actually 6" BS but there is only about an 1/8" spring clearance with about an inch of factory fender lip clearance so going to 5 1/2" BS would be good), stock suspension

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Re: Stock Suspension Equals Wheel & Tire Size Help
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2015 - 11:24:02 AM »
Pulled the trigger on the Year One 17 wheels.....Rallye's.  Firestone was unavailable locally so they cut me a deal on Nitto's.

Now we try them on next week and hope they fit.

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Re: Stock Suspension Equals Wheel & Tire Size Help
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2015 - 10:22:07 AM »
Your are going to love the Nitto's!

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Re: Stock Suspension Equals Wheel & Tire Size Help
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2015 - 02:12:49 PM »
I suggest just getting the Year One 17x9 for BOTH the front and rear... they'll fit A-OK... and with 275-40-17 tires BOTH front and rear.  Having different size f/r rims/tires is a disadvantage if/when you'll need to rotate them.  Plus, the 275-40 in the front will make the car look much more awesome, as well as handle better overall.  If you wanted, you could even get a 5th identiacl rim/tire for use as a spare in the trunk.

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Re: Stock Suspension Equals Wheel & Tire Size Help
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2015 - 12:28:34 AM »
I got the year one ralleys late last year, they look awesome!  My car has stock suspension, old and in moderate disrepair  :(

I ended up going with the 17x8's all around for a few reasons, I preferred to use a 50 series tire to maximize tire sidewall height both for looks and ride quality instead of something like 275/40's, so the 17x9's didn't seem necessary.  I think I also read somewhere on here that the 17x9's may result in some possible front end clearance issues on the inside edge. 

For tires I got Kumho Ecsta ESP 235/50 front and 255/50 rear.  I think they look pretty good and they have the correct weight rating for the car.  235/50 was about as tall a tire it seemed would fit up front, and 255/50 allowed me to get a bit more width in back without having too much difference in size front to back.  Would have preferred to run the same size all around, but again its all trade off's for one reason or another based on personal preference. 

Ultimately I'm happy with the choices.  I had to raise the front a bit to make the fit, but I think I still have some room left on the outside to upgrade to disc brakes, which need a little extra room.  The driver side rear is very close to the wheel well, but so far so good.  The rear leaf's are old and will be replaced eventually so I'll have a little more room at that time...   :2cents:
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