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Offline 3D

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Wider track width on the front of a '70 'Cuda ????????
« on: January 18, 2015 - 05:49:11 PM »
Looking for some advice and/or another solution,
I'm currently trting to mock up some Viper wheels on my '70 'Cuda. The fronts are 18" x 10.5.
The problem i have is at full droop the wheel rubs the upper control arm when turning,  I currentley have 2" adapter spacers installed.
does anyone know if somebody makes a longer upper and lower control arms for a Cuda to widen the track width?

I have lots of upper and lower stock arms for E bodies, thinking of extending a set to try.
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Re: Wider track width on the front of a '70 'Cuda ????????
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2015 - 06:19:38 PM »
I use A-Body lower control arms on mine. They are only 3/16 longer than a E-Body.  Failing that later B-Bodys are longer still but use a different ball joint/steering arm set up. For the uppers I'm using Hotchkis UCA that use adjustable rod ends.
Failing that these might work? http://shop.victorycircle.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VCP05%2D0065
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Re: Wider track width on the front of a '70 'Cuda ????????
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2015 - 06:40:30 PM »
Are the hochkis smaller in size.
thinking im going to have to try and find a 3" spacer.

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Re: Wider track width on the front of a '70 'Cuda ????????
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2015 - 06:56:34 PM »
Not sure but they don't rub on mine and I have 18X11" rims. I assume it's the back spacing that's giving you grief?
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Re: Wider track width on the front of a '70 'Cuda ????????
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2015 - 07:19:22 PM »
Ya, probably. Just ran out and checked, looks like it's around 8-1/2"!
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Re: Wider track width on the front of a '70 'Cuda ????????
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2015 - 07:31:30 PM »
I doubt the fenders would fit in stock form.
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Re: Wider track width on the front of a '70 'Cuda ????????
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2015 - 07:48:25 PM »
Fender is the least of my worries.

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Re: Wider track width on the front of a '70 'Cuda ????????
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2015 - 12:08:48 AM »
Going to certain tubular UCA's can buy you the room you need. I had interference on my Duster at full lock and droop and replaced my stock UCA's with a set of magnumforce bushed UCA's, problem solved. The tubular UCA's that are "V" shaped are narrower than the stockers.

That said, you're not going to fit anything wider than a 275 up front without fender modifications. Maybe a 285 on some cars with some brands of tire. Bigger than that and you're cutting, flaring, etc.

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Re: Wider track width on the front of a '70 'Cuda ????????
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2015 - 09:37:44 AM »
Not to mention the 6 bolt hub arrangement.

Short of spacers, I think you looking at a fair amount of custom fab work. Either you're making custom arms to get the length, or your adapting late B arms and the associated fab work with lower ball joints, strut rods, and steering arms.

Its not impossible, but its not a bolt on deal either.

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Re: Wider track width on the front of a '70 'Cuda ????????
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2015 - 01:55:21 PM »
I'm actually looking for a cheap dakota 2 wheel drive to hack up for the front end.

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Re: Wider track width on the front of a '70 'Cuda ????????
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2015 - 01:59:46 PM »
I'm actually looking for a cheap dakota 2 wheel drive to hack up for the front end.

You could make the Dakota spindle work if your hell-bent on the Viper rims?
Brad
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Re: Wider track width on the front of a '70 'Cuda ????????
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2015 - 03:17:51 PM »
You could build a set of 'cuda fenders for him Brad! Then convince him to make his 'cuda look like Gurney's. Then the two of you go on a SCCA nostalgia tour.  :bigsmile:
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Re: Wider track width on the front of a '70 'Cuda ????????
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2015 - 03:20:36 PM »
You could build a set of 'cuda fenders for him Brad! Then convince him to make his 'cuda look like Gurney's. Then the two of you go on a SCCA nostalgia tour.  :bigsmile:

 :lol:  That would be cool to see!
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Re: Wider track width on the front of a '70 'Cuda ????????
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2015 - 01:54:56 PM »
You could build a set of 'cuda fenders for him Brad! Then convince him to make his 'cuda look like Gurney's. Then the two of you go on a SCCA nostalgia tour.  :bigsmile:

I may need to have a set of rear fenders like Gurney's to fit those 19" x 13" Rims!!!!, but that's another Post.

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Re: Wider track width on the front of a '70 'Cuda ????????
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2015 - 10:58:57 AM »
You could make the Dakota spindle work if your hell-bent on the Viper rims?



Went to the wrecker yesterday, looks like the the dakota spindle might work. Only thing is the steering arm is on the front for rack & pinion. Do you think I could flip sides so the steering arm is he back? This would also mean the brake caliper would be at the front as opposed to the back. Thoughts? I'll post a picture later. I did score a nice 2003 Durango rear diff w/ disc brakes though.
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