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Re: Canadian spec Hemi Challenger R/T convertibles
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2015 - 08:21:38 AM »
I agree that the challengers will become as desirable as the Cuda's. The new generation challengers will make the first generation challengers a must to have! All challenger convertibles will go up in value by the end of the new challenger run also. :smokin: :grinyes:

I had the same train of thought but now I actually think that the new Challengers are having the reverse effect on owning a '70 Challenger.  Take your average Joe who likes muscle cars and has some but not have a lot of mechanical skill.  He has $80k and can either buy a fully restored '70 Challenger or a new '15 Hellcat. Easy answer.  Or take the same guy with about $40k to spend, again I think a '14-15 Challenger wins.




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Re: Canadian spec Hemi Challenger R/T convertibles
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2015 - 08:33:42 AM »
All Canadian 1970 Hemi Challenger Convertibles are still alive. FJ5 Convertible went to Walt D. out of the east coast of Canada and then it has passed hands again. FC7 Convertible out of Quebec was sold years ago by Rene D.  The EV2 car, the owner said to me that he will never sell the car and it is staying in Canada. He bought the car eons ago, just after my brother inlaw and I looked at the car in Toronto. There is a number that is accepted as being the number of cars built, that number I believe is not true and there was one more 1970 Hemi Challenger Convertible Built.
From what i know, the FJ5 convertible has got Black leather interior, the EV2 Convertible has got Black vinyl interior and the FC7 Convertible has got White vinyl interior.
What is known about this 4th Challenger you are speaking of please, do you have any colour combo details please. :wave:
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Re: Canadian spec Hemi Challenger R/T convertibles
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2015 - 09:19:44 AM »
I had the same train of thought but now I actually think that the new Challengers are having the reverse effect on owning a '70 Challenger.  Take your average Joe who likes muscle cars and has some but not have a lot of mechanical skill.  He has $80k and can either buy a fully restored '70 Challenger or a new '15 Hellcat. Easy answer.  Or take the same guy with about $40k to spend, again I think a '14-15 Challenger wins. I agree the average guy-girl in the market for a car with money will levitate to a newer -modern car. But resale value on a collector minded person will go with an investment type of car that retains the cost of the vehicle plus maybe a 10-to 20% profit when they sale it. When the new generation challenger is no longer available ,collectors will be looking at the first generation of challengers bringing the value way up. It will take a few years for the second generation challenger to start being desirable due to the volume made. :smokin: :eek4:
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Re: Canadian spec Hemi Challenger R/T convertibles
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2015 - 12:04:12 AM »
I agree that the challengers will become as desirable as the Cuda's. The new generation challengers will make the first generation challengers a must to have! All challenger convertibles will go up in value by the end of the new challenger run also. :smokin: :grinyes:

Challengers have not become as desireable as Cudas in 40+ years. It is the same demographic of the population that holds the primary interest in these cars. Why do you think that their thinking will change in the future?
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Re: Canadian spec Hemi Challenger R/T convertibles
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2015 - 09:27:32 AM »
Young owners of the new Challenger's are the future collectors. Many of them would like to have an older Challenger to go with their new one. I see this all the time on Challengertalk.com.
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Re: Canadian spec Hemi Challenger R/T convertibles
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2015 - 05:19:51 AM »
I do not think the 1970 Hemi Challenger Cpnvertibles will reach the prices of the 71 Hemicuda convertibles, but i think they could get closer to what the 70 Hemicuda convertibles are, i think they will creep up in value over the next decade and start knocking on the door in parity with the 1970 Plymouth's. Just my opinion anyway. :swaying:
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Re: Canadian spec Hemi Challenger R/T convertibles
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2015 - 04:20:07 PM »
I do not think the 1970 Hemi Challenger Cpnvertibles will reach the prices of the 71 Hemicuda convertibles, but i think they could get closer to what the 70 Hemicuda convertibles are, i think they will creep up in value over the next decade and start knocking on the door in parity with the 1970 Plymouth's. Just my opinion anyway. :swaying:

Yeah the relationship of Hemi Challenger 'vert to HemiCuda 'vert values is an interesting dynamic. The disparity could be linked to the original consumer preference and sales figures - HemiCuda 'verts outsold Hemi Challenger 'verts by better than 2 to 1 (12 total Hemi Challenger 'verts to 29 total HemiCuda 'verts). This 2 to 1 ratio of HemiCuda's to Hemi Challenger R/T's pretty much carried over to the hardtop coupes too with a total of about 849 HemiCudas sold to only about 460 Hemi Challenger R/T's - a little less than 2 to 1. Why? Maybe original buyers just liked the way "HemiCuda" sounded and thought "Hemi Challenger R/T" didn't roll off the lips as nicely as "HemiCuda" did. Who knows? For whatever reason, the HemiCuda held about a 2 to 1 sales advantage over the Hemi Challenger R/T. Interesting though nonetheless.
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Re: Canadian spec Hemi Challenger R/T convertibles
« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2015 - 06:38:30 PM »
Okay, we can debate the relative values of Hemi Challenger R/T 'verts vs HemiCuda 'verts, but I'd like to get back on point with the original posting. I'm still curious as to the whereabouts and status of the elusive Canadian spec Hemi Challenger R/T 'vert JS27R0B332575.



As previously mentioned, this particular car is lurking around, or was lurking around the greater Toronto area for years and the last online reference I can find to it was the above pic of it's Fender Tag which was posted in 2009. Surely one of you Toronto area guys, and I know there are a lot of you guys, have the scuttlebutt on this car. Is it still awaiting a resto? Has it already been resto'd? Curious minds (like me) want to know. So put the APB out and lets find out what's going on with this ultra-rare Challenger!
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Re: Canadian spec Hemi Challenger R/T convertibles
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2015 - 06:00:53 PM »
JS27R0B332575 was sold to a man in Quebec, which is where I found it. I purchased it and a bunch of V codes, one being a 70 cuda vert. It will be making its way stateside soon and will finally been seen by the world again.

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Re: Canadian spec Hemi Challenger R/T convertibles
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2015 - 06:04:49 PM »
The current owner should show it at the up coming MCACN show....They're having the largest gathering of Hemi E Body convertibles ever...
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Re: Canadian spec Hemi Challenger R/T convertibles
« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2015 - 06:32:44 PM »
The current owner should show it at the up coming MCACN show....They're having the largest gathering of Hemi E Body convertibles ever...



Some of the best probably won't make it there
We all know where some of the best Hemi vert's are...out here in CA.

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=69357.25
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Re: Canadian spec Hemi Challenger R/T convertibles
« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2015 - 06:38:18 PM »

Some of the best probably won't make it there
We all know where some of the best Hemi vert's are...out here in CA.

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=69357.25


They're up to 24 now I think...so most of them will be there....There's a yellow/tan 70 Cuda going from LMC here in Ontario....That car hasn't seen the light of day since being restored years ago...
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Re: Canadian spec Hemi Challenger R/T convertibles
« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2015 - 06:45:51 PM »
JS27R0B332575 was sold to a man in Quebec, which is where I found it. I purchased it and a bunch of V codes, one being a 70 cuda vert. It will be making its way stateside soon and will finally been seen by the world again.

Whoa! Whoa! Norseman! You can't throw a "teaser" down like that and not elaborate on the story! Details man, we want details!

Let me get my popcorn first  :popcorn:  Okay, I'm ready! Please proceed with your story. :cheers:
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Re: Canadian spec Hemi Challenger R/T convertibles
« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2015 - 06:51:24 PM »
There's a yellow/tan 70 Cuda going from LMC here in Ontario....That car hasn't seen the light of day since being restored years ago...

You must mean this one?
That's a rare framed poster I have of it.
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Re: Canadian spec Hemi Challenger R/T convertibles
« Reply #29 on: November 01, 2015 - 10:13:31 PM »
They're up to 24 now I think...so most of them will be there....There's a yellow/tan 70 Cuda going from LMC here in Ontario....That car hasn't seen the light of day since being restored years ago...
I was at the show employee meeting a week ago and Bob said they have 27 lined up for the display!