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    Offline bruce69camaro

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    Re: Updating the HEMI In The Beast....
    « Reply #90 on: June 10, 2015 - 02:58:38 PM »
    Trust me Fish....there was a total of three 1970 Cuda's that I liked back then, one was this AAR, one had a 340 in it that ran wild, and another one had a 440 in it and I cried when he totaled it. He had the 3.5" front Centerline drag wheels on it and hit a curve going to fast ands the tires folded off the rim. That car was beautiful, until this happened.
    I'd take yours if you really forced it on me...LOL
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    Re: Updating the HEMI In The Beast....
    « Reply #91 on: June 11, 2015 - 08:06:59 AM »
    Quote from: roadman5312 on June 09, 2015 - 05:27:19 PM
    Hmmmm, 800 on pump gas huh ?  But can't seem to remember the torque numbers   :dunno:   :roflsmiley:,  We shall see, in the mean time I want ya to know Toxic is world famous in this racing league. The man can cut a light.   :smilielol:    http://lol.legendaryspeed.com/epic-lawnmower-drag-races/


    Ok Roadman, here ya go. I wrote down the pertinent numbers straight off of the engine dyno printout:

    The pull was from 4000 to 6000 rpm.

    Max HP was 788.1 @ 6000 rpm

    Max TQ was 693.2 @ 5000 rpm

    Avg HP from 4000-6000 rpm was 637.72

    Avg TQ from 4000-6000 rpm was 641.66

    528 CI HEMI. Indy 426-1RA cnc ported heads. Custom solid roller cam. Approx .640" lift. 10.50 forged bottom end that was blueprinted and balanced. 2-1/4" custom headers. Ray Barton massaged crossram with two Holley 750 HP's running #73 jets. This pull was 36 degrees timing on pump gas.
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    Ken  --  In Georgia

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    Re: Updating the HEMI In The Beast....
    « Reply #92 on: June 11, 2015 - 08:42:57 AM »
       Very impressive numbers Ken.  Looking forward to the new numbers.   :2thumbs:
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    Re: Updating the HEMI In The Beast....
    « Reply #93 on: June 11, 2015 - 08:57:55 AM »
    Quote from: roadman5312 on June 11, 2015 - 08:42:57 AM
       Very impressive numbers Ken.  Looking forward to the new numbers.   :2thumbs:

    Thanks...    :thumbsup:   Me too....    :bananasmi   :ylsuper: 
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    Offline bruce69camaro

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    Re: Updating the HEMI In The Beast....
    « Reply #94 on: June 11, 2015 - 09:12:08 AM »
    Hey Fish, only a .640" lift cam?

    Is that because you want to street drive it?

    Just wondering because the solid roller I have, has more lift and I'm smaller in the cubic inches.

    Any word when the shop will be done with things?



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    Re: Updating the HEMI In The Beast....
    « Reply #95 on: June 11, 2015 - 11:07:39 AM »
    Quote from: bruce69camaro on June 11, 2015 - 09:12:08 AM
    Hey Fish, only a .640" lift cam?

    Is that because you want to street drive it?

    Just wondering because the solid roller I have, has more lift and I'm smaller in the cubic inches.

    Any word when the shop will be done with things?

    There are a couple of reasons for the .640" lift.

    You don't need a ton of lift when you are opening and closing 2-1/4" valves.  The smaller the valve, the higher off the seat you need to move it to flow the same air as a larger valve at lower lift.

    The HEMI head is designed so that shrouding of the valve is minimal compared to a wedge engine. The configuration and valve layout makes the air flow around the total valve seat area almost the same. Wedge heads have to overcome the valve being right next to the cylinder wall  -- ie - shrouding valves. The air doesn't flow as well right next to the cylinder wall as it does on the opposite side of the valve.

    Those two things mean that the HEMI doesn't need a whole lot of lift to flow a lot of air...

    I hope this explains it for ya....   :2thumbs:
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    Re: Updating the HEMI In The Beast....
    « Reply #96 on: June 11, 2015 - 11:23:44 AM »
    What site did you copy that off of, that was an impressive response..... :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

    Just joking Fish, what else did you expect from a bowtie guy....LOL

    Can't wait to see how this ends up.

    If we ever line up, you'll have to pull four wires just to give me a chance.....
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    Re: Updating the HEMI In The Beast....
    « Reply #97 on: June 11, 2015 - 02:07:05 PM »

    Sounds pretty stout there, what's gonna be your idle? 1600rpm?

     :bigsmile: :2thumbs:
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    Re: Updating the HEMI In The Beast....
    « Reply #98 on: June 11, 2015 - 02:12:14 PM »
    Quote from: HP_Cuda on June 11, 2015 - 02:07:05 PM
    Sounds pretty stout there, what's gonna be your idle? 1600rpm?

     :bigsmile: :2thumbs:

    I usually kept the idle around 1000 rpm. It would idle 600 -- 700 if I wanted it to, but I always wanted to make sure there was enough oil getting slung around to keep oil on the lifter rollers.   
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    Re: Updating the HEMI In The Beast....
    « Reply #99 on: June 11, 2015 - 02:13:22 PM »

    Wow still very streetable then.

    Should smoke the tires endlessly  :burnout:
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    Re: Updating the HEMI In The Beast....
    « Reply #100 on: June 11, 2015 - 02:30:10 PM »
    Quote from: HP_Cuda on June 11, 2015 - 02:13:22 PM
    Wow still very streetable then.

    Should smoke the tires endlessly  :burnout:


    Here is an old vid of me playing in our parking lot one morning before work. My car starts at around the 2:00 minute mark. I try a few dry burnouts, but the 18" wide slicks don't sit and spin very well...    :smilielol: 

    Anyway, you can here the old combo with some throttle and while idling.

    http://www.streetfire.net/video/1969-hemi-barracuda-1969-dodge-dart-1972-chevy-n_127578.htm

    ... :2thumbs:
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    Re: Updating the HEMI In The Beast....
    « Reply #101 on: June 11, 2015 - 03:18:54 PM »

    No trans brake?

    Nice vid I especially liked the smoking rubber left behind.  :clapping:
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    Re: Updating the HEMI In The Beast....
    « Reply #102 on: June 11, 2015 - 03:20:33 PM »
    Quote from: HP_Cuda on June 11, 2015 - 03:18:54 PM
    No trans brake?

    Nice vid I especially liked the smoking rubber left behind.  :clapping:

    Nope, no trans brake...   :grinno:   
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    Re: Updating the HEMI In The Beast....
    « Reply #103 on: June 11, 2015 - 03:21:14 PM »
    Great vid, I was hoping to see the wheelie bars get a workout.   :burnout:
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    Re: Updating the HEMI In The Beast....
    « Reply #104 on: June 11, 2015 - 03:26:54 PM »
    Quote from: roadman5312 on June 11, 2015 - 03:21:14 PM
    Great vid, I was hoping to see the wheelie bars get a workout.   :burnout:

     When I get it back together and take it to the track, I will get a video of me matting the throttle and hanging on.....    :bigsmile: 
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