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    Author Topic: Think the 318 crank will handle it?  (Read 6633 times)

    Offline aris_unlimited

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    Think the 318 crank will handle it?
    « on: April 15, 2015 - 07:32:31 PM »
    Basically planning a 318 centrifugal supercharged build. 9:1 compression boost at 7 lbs or lower. Goal is 500-550 hp probably similar torque. Forged rods and pistons, just didn't want to have to go with a forged crank if I didn't have to. Don't really plan on going over 5500 rpms. Thoughts?
    « Last Edit: April 15, 2015 - 07:35:19 PM by aris_unlimited »
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    Offline cudabob496

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    Re: Think the 318 crank will handle it?
    « Reply #1 on: April 15, 2015 - 07:38:06 PM »
    no expert, but I would get a forged crank

    read that there are not enough head bolts to support a
    blown 318
    « Last Edit: April 15, 2015 - 07:44:53 PM by cudabob496 »
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    Re: Think the 318 crank will handle it?
    « Reply #2 on: April 15, 2015 - 09:14:24 PM »
    I have never heard that about the head bolts. It may be true under high levels of boost, but honestly I am hoping to keep my boost around 5 lbs (it might see 7 for a bit before I get it all sorted out).
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    Re: Think the 318 crank will handle it?
    « Reply #3 on: April 15, 2015 - 09:28:13 PM »
    I think there is only 10 bolts.
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    Re: Think the 318 crank will handle it?
    « Reply #4 on: April 15, 2015 - 11:24:43 PM »
    back in the 70's if you wanted a strong 318 crank you would find it in a truck. Direct connection recomended them because they were forged with hardened journals.
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    Re: Think the 318 crank will handle it?
    « Reply #5 on: April 16, 2015 - 12:06:15 AM »
    use studs on the main caps


    In this article, they swapped in a forged crank, just to make 400 hp!

    http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/engine/mopp-0409-318-engine-build/

    However:
    http://www.moparchat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67298
    « Last Edit: April 16, 2015 - 12:14:42 AM by cudabob496 »
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    Re: Think the 318 crank will handle it?
    « Reply #6 on: April 20, 2015 - 03:56:05 PM »
    A 318 forged crank should be easy to locate , good peace of mind IMO
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    Re: Think the 318 crank will handle it?
    « Reply #7 on: April 21, 2015 - 01:31:49 PM »
    Its a 318. I'm sure there are a million replacement cranks, and blocks, out there after you crack this one.
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    Re: Think the 318 crank will handle it?
    « Reply #8 on: April 21, 2015 - 11:51:08 PM »
    Quote from: HP2 on April 21, 2015 - 01:31:49 PM
    Its a 318. I'm sure there are a million replacement cranks, and blocks, out there after you crack this one.

    lol the goal is to not crack it. I try to do everything right the first time so I don't have to redo it.

    Anyone have any advice on finding a forged 318 crank? I have no idea how to go about finding one from other vehicles, and have pretty much assumed I will have to buy a new one.
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    Re: Think the 318 crank will handle it?
    « Reply #9 on: April 22, 2015 - 12:06:07 AM »
    « Last Edit: April 22, 2015 - 01:22:31 PM by cudabob496 »
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    Re: Think the 318 crank will handle it?
    « Reply #10 on: April 22, 2015 - 10:23:53 AM »
    Then you need to look for any pre '72 318 car crank , and 318-3 truck crank, or any 64-67 273 car crank.

    The forged crank will allow it to flex more if your tune is off or your waste gate fails, but a cast crank can be built to hold up reasonably well if you radius the journals and oil holes and have proper bearing clearances.
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    Re: Think the 318 crank will handle it?
    « Reply #11 on: April 26, 2015 - 01:07:15 AM »
    Quote from: cudabob496 on April 22, 2015 - 12:06:07 AM
    DL searches all craingslists in US

    http://www.dailylister.com/Search_Results.cfm?q=318+crankshaft&as_oq=&cx=006225133476456637497%3Anhut7xqnd70&as_occt=Title&cof=FORID%3A11&ie=UTF-8&sort=date&newwindow=1


    Thanks a bunch for that. I found a forged crank from a 273 in AZ and with shipping it will cost me $140. Saves me a tad over $600, over a new one.
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    Re: Think the 318 crank will handle it?
    « Reply #12 on: April 26, 2015 - 01:17:05 AM »
    Quote from: aris_unlimited on April 26, 2015 - 01:07:15 AM


    Thanks a bunch for that. I found a forged crank from a 273 in AZ and with shipping it will cost me $140. Saves me a tad over $600, over a new one.

    Way Cool!
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    Re: Think the 318 crank will handle it?
    « Reply #13 on: April 26, 2015 - 06:00:39 AM »
    Good luck with your build, send photos if you can when ready  :thumbsup:
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    Re: Think the 318 crank will handle it?
    « Reply #14 on: April 26, 2015 - 03:21:36 PM »
    Quote from: ChallengerSE440 on April 26, 2015 - 06:00:39 AM
    Good luck with your build, send photos if you can when ready  :thumbsup:

    I'm sure I'll post pics, but right now I am in the stage of getting parts lol.
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