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Offline JMB340Challenger

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Oil on #2 plug only
« on: May 08, 2015 - 09:42:26 PM »
I've got oil on the threads and electrode of my #2 spark plug on a new motor.  All the other plugs look good. Only about 300 miles on it, is this normal or should I be concerned about rings not seating or bad valve seals? Thanks!
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Re: Oil on #2 plug only
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2015 - 10:34:33 PM »
could be an intake gasket problem too pulling oil up out of the lifter valley

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Re: Oil on #2 plug only
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2015 - 11:36:13 PM »
valve cover gasket leak?

what is color of porcelin, compared to another plug?
« Last Edit: May 08, 2015 - 11:57:15 PM by cudabob496 »
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Re: Oil on #2 plug only
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2015 - 11:44:46 AM »
The plugs all looks the same except for the oil on #2. If it were a valve cover leak, shouldn't I see it leaking down the exterior of the head? Thanks!
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Re: Oil on #2 plug only
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2015 - 11:56:33 AM »
wouldn't think you would have oil on the threads from an internal source? I would suggest you swap plugs with another cylinder or replace it with new. After you put some more miles on it, check it again. Oil on the tip of the plug inside the combustion chamber, could indicate a problem, but unless you have other symptoms, I would run it some more and see what happens.  :2cents:
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Re: Oil on #2 plug only
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2015 - 12:14:07 PM »
Ok thanks. I don't have any other symptoms. Car runs great for the most part! I am hoping it just need some more time to break the rings in as well.
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Re: Oil on #2 plug only
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2015 - 12:36:16 PM »
It is not normal to have one plug oiling up , something is not right , could be a ring installed upside down or broken , or a bad intake valve guide or seal . start with simple things & see if you can make the problem stop .

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Re: Oil on #2 plug only
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2015 - 01:30:57 PM »
Just had the the heads reworked, so I would imagine new valve seals were installed when the heads were reassembled. same with the rings; I built the engine and I know I put the rings on correctly. The intake gasket leak makes the most sense as I had the heads and intake milled a lot. Maybe my surfaces aren't mating perfectly.
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Re: Oil on #2 plug only
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2015 - 08:10:33 PM »
 That would be the first place I would look , if the bottom of the intaks is not sealed up the intake vacuum will pull in oil , you can retorque the intake as they get loose after a few heat cycles .

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Re: Oil on #2 plug only
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2015 - 12:00:12 AM »
I was able to torque the intake bolts considerable amount. I'll let you know how it turns out, Thanks Chryco!
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Re: Oil on #2 plug only
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2015 - 01:31:49 AM »
Can't a leakdown test determine if valve seal?
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000

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Re: Oil on #2 plug only
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2015 - 01:35:20 AM »
You're right cudabob, that's next if tightening the intake bolts doesn't help.
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Re: Oil on #2 plug only
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2015 - 01:36:42 AM »
Leak down test for rings though right?
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Re: Oil on #2 plug only
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2015 - 08:21:39 AM »
Leak down will test the seal of the cylinder , so rings , valve seats etc , there is no way a leak down will test a valve guide as the valve would be open to get pressure there

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Re: Oil on #2 plug only
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2015 - 02:11:08 PM »
but you can do a leakdown test, to eliminate all other possibilities. If everything else
checks out, and your still buring oil as shown by the porcelin color of plug, then that
might suggest its a guide/seal.

also, if pull intake, valve with leaking guide should have a lotta black
gunk on top of vavle.
« Last Edit: May 10, 2015 - 04:17:28 PM by cudabob496 »
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000