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Offline TonyBolton

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Mancini racing camber shims?
« on: July 04, 2015 - 11:46:26 AM »
http://www.manciniracing.com/maracaspkit.html

Anyone using these? Obviously they're just washers but I can't seem to find much use of such a "trick" to gain a degree or so negative camber. 

Seems like a cheap way to get more contact patch on the ground for those who like to steer vs. Go in a straight line.




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Re: Mancini racing camber shims?
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2015 - 11:51:05 AM »
I have never used them but I see no reason why they would not help although for $2 you should be able to get a handful of washers !!

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Re: Mancini racing camber shims?
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2015 - 11:54:42 AM »
Yea....local hardware store jus grab some grade 8 washers for 2$ would be my route.

I don't think many...if anyone daily drives their mopar here so the treadwear isn't much of a deterrent.

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Re: Mancini racing camber shims?
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2015 - 12:10:13 PM »
Typically you can dial in enough negative camber to eat a set of tire with the stock adjustments, why add more?  It's caster our cars so desperately need...
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Re: Mancini racing camber shims?
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2015 - 12:13:23 PM »
I'm looking at more of an autocross aspect where higher speed stability isn't as much of an issue.

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Re: Mancini racing camber shims?
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2015 - 12:29:09 PM »
Race application 1.5 iNegative s typical 2.0 is pretty aggressive... As mentioned $2 worth of washers will do the same thing...
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Re: Mancini racing camber shims?
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2015 - 12:32:04 PM »
Cool....jus seeing if anyone has tried/failed this option. I come from a Mustang background we're pretty much everything has been tried done and overdone and redone twice.

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Re: Mancini racing camber shims?
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2015 - 12:42:15 PM »
looks like a standard/common Extra Thick SAE Washer  to me?  On Mopar circle track cars I've used/seen them used but not on a street car.
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Re: Mancini racing camber shims?
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2015 - 01:18:37 PM »
Its another tool in juggling the caster/camber compromise.

They are hardened, so they aren't plain hardware store washers, but you can get them from Mac-Carr for less.

Mopar guys are finally figuring out some of the stuff Mustang guys have been doing for a decade or more.

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Re: Mancini racing camber shims?
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2015 - 01:22:36 PM »



Mopar guys are finally figuring out some of the stuff Mustang guys have been doing for a decade or more.

Lol....that's kinda what I was thinking but didn't want to offend any purist.

I have no brand loyalty. ....i drive a chevy truck.....race a ford mustang....wife drives a nissan.

The dodge /mopar thing is new to me.

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Re: Mancini racing camber shims?
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2015 - 01:29:24 PM »
Shimming the lower ball joint isn't new...   Keep in mind shimming at that point changes more than just camber, it effects SIA....
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Re: Mancini racing camber shims?
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2015 - 01:30:39 PM »
Right I knew it changed other things that's what I was wanting to hear from if anybody had any drawbacks from using them

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Re: Mancini racing camber shims?
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2015 - 01:39:59 PM »
In a race application SAI isn't to critical, it relates to tire wear, steering effort & self centering, none of which are serious concerns for a race application..

BTW if anyone caught it yes the first time I posted SIA but SAI is correct...
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Re: Mancini racing camber shims?
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2015 - 01:41:33 PM »
It's all love when taking bout scrubb angle ;)

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Re: Mancini racing camber shims?
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2015 - 01:42:10 PM »
In a race application SAI isn't to critical, it relates to tire wear, steering effort & self centering, none of which are serious concerns for a race application..

BTW if anyone caught it yes the first time I posted SIA but SAI is correct...

That's Ok I'm oldschool and call it king pin inclination.(KPI)  :-[  :lol:
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