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    Offline 70chall440

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    Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
    « Reply #705 on: December 09, 2017 - 01:20:30 PM »
    to a new subject (electrical). I am in the process of laying out my wiring and determining what goes where and what other items I need. I am using an aftermarket "hot rod" wiring harness just to be clear. The one thing I am struggling a little with is a relay box; I intend to install relays on the passenger side of the engine compartment to handle my headlights (high and low), driving lights and fans. I have a number of relay boxes as well as a Bussmann fused relay box which is what I was thinking of using. The question is "do I need fuses as well as relays since the lines are fused at the main fuse panel?".

    what I have available is a relay panel (actually have several) and a fused relay panel. Id appreciate any thoughts on this as I am torn about it currently. the main issue is space; the fuse/relay panel is large and I am going to be running a 150 amp fuse off of the alternator in the same area. With this car I spent a inordinate amount of time trying to make it tidy. These are the 2 boxes I have.
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    Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
    « Reply #706 on: December 09, 2017 - 08:05:22 PM »
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    Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
    « Reply #707 on: December 09, 2017 - 09:19:54 PM »
    Thanks, I have read those, but might have passed over it. Not a big deal either way.
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    Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
    « Reply #708 on: December 09, 2017 - 09:25:38 PM »
    So I have decided to use the Bussmann relay/fuse box (called a RTMR). This will allow me to use a fused relay on 4 circuits (high beams, low beams, fans and driving lights). I am going to build a panel to hold it all plus the 150 amp fuse from the alternator.
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    Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
    « Reply #709 on: December 10, 2017 - 04:40:21 PM »
    If you haven’t bought that busman panel yet, I think I have one. I’ll sell it with the pins for a good deal. I bought new and changed directions.

    What is the alt output and what gauge wire are you running? 150a is pretty substantial. You may consider a breaker for that application, that way if something intermittently pops the fuse/breaker, you can reset it and get home. A fuse is a little more trouble to find another.


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    Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
    « Reply #710 on: December 10, 2017 - 04:44:30 PM »
    For what it’s worth, I started with a painless harness and tried to use a supplemental fuse and relay box. I found that I would just have two boxes, nothing labeled right, different size fuses and such. So I cut out the painless fuse box and redid it all.




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    Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
    « Reply #711 on: December 10, 2017 - 05:58:52 PM »
    Quote from: GoodysGotaCuda on December 10, 2017 - 04:40:21 PM
    If you haven’t bought that busman panel yet, I think I have one. I’ll sell it with the pins for a good deal. I bought new and changed directions.

    What is the alt output and what gauge wire are you running? 150a is pretty substantial. You may consider a breaker for that application, that way if something intermittently pops the fuse/breaker, you can reset it and get home. A fuse is a little more trouble to find another.


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    Just to be clear, I am not installing the panel as my main fuse panel, this is purely for the relays to my lights and fans. that said, I did buy the Bussmann 1503-2-4 panel which houses 5 relays and 10 fuses. My alternator is a 120 amp Denso (from a early 90s Dakota). I thought about the circuit breaker but decided on the fuse because... well just went that way...  :bigsmile:

    Right now I am researching whether or not I need to run a charge wire back to the battery. In my challenger (original style harness) I do not have one and in the past I never ran one when I mounted the battery in the trunk (not saying its right).

    I do enjoy wiring, just so many options and things to keep in mind it can be very confusing. I am somewhat at a design stage of sorts mainly for the additions I have made (Halogen headlights and driving lights, and the electric fans as well as the EFI and MSD ignition).
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    Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
    « Reply #712 on: December 10, 2017 - 05:59:58 PM »
    Quote from: GoodysGotaCuda on December 10, 2017 - 04:44:30 PM
    For what it’s worth, I started with a painless harness and tried to use a supplemental fuse and relay box. I found that I would just have two boxes, nothing labeled right, different size fuses and such. So I cut out the painless fuse box and redid it all.




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    So are you using both boxes? Sorry you confused me a little there.
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    73 Road Race Cuda
    « Reply #713 on: December 10, 2017 - 06:04:09 PM »
    Quote from: 70chall440 on December 10, 2017 - 05:59:58 PM
    So are you using both boxes? Sorry you confused me a little there.

    Old = left, New = right

    I removed the painless fuse box entirely. Every fuse and every relay for the car are in one spot.

    I’m the same. I really enjoy wiring but it can take an enormous amount of time to plan and execute. I think I spent 3 months wiring before I powered anything. By then I was tired of it!

    My charge wire essentially stops at my firewall. Even with everything loaded up I can’t draw more than 60a [150a alt].  I put an inductive ammeter on my car to log, it’s interesting to watch sometimes. 


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    « Last Edit: December 10, 2017 - 06:08:29 PM by GoodysGotaCuda »
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    Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
    « Reply #714 on: December 10, 2017 - 06:07:29 PM »
    Quote from: GoodysGotaCuda on December 10, 2017 - 06:04:09 PM
    Old = left, New = right

    I removed the painless fuse box entirely. Every fuse and every relay for the car are in one spot.

    I’m the same. I really enjoy wiring but it can take an enormous amount of time to plan and execute. I think I spent 3 months wiring before I powered anything. By then I was tired of it!


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    Definitely a good call, your box looks very nice. Well I have been working on this car for like 10 years, so I guess I have time. I will not say I am OCD about wiring but I definitely like it to be tidy and clean in most cases (my rat rod isn't as tidy as I would have liked but I will get around to cleaning the wiring up one day, its all good and functional just a little chaotic under the dash). 
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    Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
    « Reply #715 on: December 10, 2017 - 10:33:12 PM »
    So here is what I am planning, basically this is what I am running in my challenger
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    Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
    « Reply #716 on: December 11, 2017 - 08:55:00 AM »
    Looks fine to me. How are you passing the fuse box power through the firewall?


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    Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
    « Reply #717 on: December 11, 2017 - 11:27:37 AM »
    I relocated the fuse box to a place above the accelerator pedal and have all of the wiring passing through a hole with a grommet on the far left side (I believe that it is a factory round hole). I closed up the original fuse block hole.
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    Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
    « Reply #718 on: December 13, 2017 - 09:47:10 PM »
    In the spirit of electrical I recently was thinking about switches, specifically the road lamp (fog lights) and the map light. Granted, these are relatively minor issues but that how my mind works  :bigsmile:. Anyway, I have the original map light switch which doesn't work and I don't have a road lamp switch. I did a little research and discovered that the Mopar Cuda road lamp switch is insanely priced (like $200) for what is basically just a toggle switch. The map light switch is definitely a toggle switch. Because I would like the switches to look "relatively" stock, I begin looking around the net for alternatives, I did find one that was similar in the UK but I would rather source something easier to get. Therefore I decided to try my hand at making a cover that I could just put onto a normal parts store toggle switch and get the look I am after. I have a mini mill/lathe combo that I admittedly don't really know how to use. I do know some machinists, but didn't want to out source something as small and minor as this. I went out and got a stick of aluminum and set about making something. The results are here and for me, I am very pleased. The cover is held on with a small set screw.
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    Re: 73 Road Race Cuda
    « Reply #719 on: December 13, 2017 - 11:49:09 PM »
    Would you mind sharing where did you find the switch in the UK?


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