Author Topic: 73 Road Race Cuda (Read 201116 times)

70chall440 · « **Reply #840 on:** March 06, 2018 - 10:23:06 PM »

Quote from: redo1973 on March 06, 2018 - 09:13:13 PM

I truly feel your pain. All I can add is to keep at. It turned out that I had installed the beveled washer incorrectly so all of my adjustments were in vain, close but in vain. The other thing I remember is that it requires slight adjustments and patience. I think that the first to adjust is the main door window to the front of the upright and the weatherstripping so that you get the window as far forward as possible without binding in the weatherstripping. The quarter window has more adjustments so keep it in small increments. Also I found it best with the whiskers installed.

I'm sure you've done all this too and wish I could be more specific but I honestly spent days on and off tweaking mine. My corners touch the rubber but I would not say there is a great seal. Best of luck.

Greatly appreciate the advice and comments. Perhaps I should ask "which beveled washers" are you referring to? I don't remember any but that doesnt mean they aren't there, but with all things there is a 50/50 chance they are in correctly since I cannot remember anything like that (there were 2 of working on the car, perhaps they are there and I didn't see it).

I have played with adjusting both windows and know what you mean in regards to adjusting the front one forward first (which I did) and I was making some good progress until that upper back corner jumped out at me. It seems like not matter what I adjust I cannot get it in much more. As anyone who has ever installed and/or adjusted these know, they are far more complex than they need to be but it is what it is. I am sure I will get it sorted out, but right now I dont have the patience for it.

I recently visited Cody (aka Cuda Cody) and he was saying that the piece that the weather strip goes into can (and should) be adjusted outward during the process as the screw holes are slotted. I tried this but it didn't seem to move, however I have to admit that I am using an aftermarket screw kit and I know they are not the correct screws as the originals had a flat head whereas these have a dome to them.I feel it is possible that the screws I a using perhaps are not allowing any movement. I believe that "if" the weatherstrip could be pulled out slightly it would help with the overall seal.

GoodysGotaCuda · « **Reply #841 on:** March 07, 2018 - 02:01:40 AM »

If you're saying the door glass is adjusted, I believe it should be push outboard and be brought further up.

...at least that's how mine is, there is a step in the weatherstripping there. But mine is a 'Cuda, if it matters there.

redo1973 · « **Reply #842 on:** March 07, 2018 - 07:29:20 AM »

One of the revelations we had was that I had adjusted the door window such that it was pushing the quarter glass into the car and taking away a portion of the natural "arch" to the glass. I adjusted the front guide inward to bring the upper edge out. I know it seems contrary to the issue but it allowed for the quarter glass to sit better when receiving the door glass edge. I was also putting the window to tightly into the weather stripping.

The real success on that corner came when the the quarter glass was pivoted using the upper adjustment screw. The lower adjustment screw seemed to be more effective on the upper edge of the quarter glass. Attached is an original bevelled washer and my home made one (the black is original). There is one on each door used when attaching the up slide to the glass. I had inserted it on the front end of the bar on top of the plastic piece. It forced my glass to be angled in the door. Once I correct this, the glass has equal distance between the glass and the door belt.

I'll have to get you picture this weekend of the adjustment screws. I need to remove my interior plastic; AGAIN

I forgot to run some wire and insert pieces of sound deadening material. I'm getting closer.

70chall440 · « **Reply #843 on:** March 07, 2018 - 11:22:33 AM »

Quote from: redo1973 on March 07, 2018 - 07:29:20 AM

One of the revelations we had was that I had adjusted the door window such that it was pushing the quarter glass into the car and taking away a portion of the natural "arch" to the glass. I adjusted the front guide inward to bring the upper edge out. I know it seems contrary to the issue but it allowed for the quarter glass to sit better when receiving the door glass edge. I was also putting the window to tightly into the weather stripping.

The real success on that corner came when the the quarter glass was pivoted using the upper adjustment screw. The lower adjustment screw seemed to be more effective on the upper edge of the quarter glass. Attached is an original bevelled washer and my home made one (the black is original). There is one on each door used when attaching the up slide to the glass. I had inserted it on the front end of the bar on top of the plastic piece. It forced my glass to be angled in the door. Once I correct this, the glass has equal distance between the glass and the door belt.

I'll have to get you picture this weekend of the adjustment screws. I need to remove my interior plastic; AGAIN I forgot to run some wire and insert pieces of sound deadening material. I'm getting closer.

I think I am following what you are saying. I have adjusted the quarter glass in and out and it has helped. I absolutely agree that the adjustments are contrary to what you thing they should be, also I have found that they is somewhat of a synchronization to making the adjustments; what I mean is that in order to adjust the glass (either the quarter or the door) in any particular direction you have to typically adjust at least 2 points. I think I can adjust the quarter out some more which would less the gap, but I think I still need to adjust the door more.

I will have to look for those washers, I vaguely remember them; if possible get a picture of where you have them and will look today where I have them (assuming I have them).

Its all a process for sure. I went back to work on the electrical system last night, had to make a grounding block that will sit behind where the radio used to be along with my ignition relay system. I am getting close to putting the dash in with the wiring harness, that will be a big step forward.

70chall440 · « **Reply #844 on:** March 07, 2018 - 11:25:41 AM »

Quote from: GoodysGotaCuda on March 07, 2018 - 02:01:40 AM

If you're saying the door glass is adjusted, I believe it should be push outboard and be brought further up.

...at least that's how mine is, there is a step in the weatherstripping there. But mine is a 'Cuda, if it matters there.

Not exactly sure I follow you but I am thinking you are saying that the door glass should be adjusted outward? If that is what you are saying you could be correct as perhaps the front is in too far which makes the back stick out. I did play with that some and it did have a little effect but not as much as I need.

At this point I am thinking this is like a combination on a safe; just have to hit the right sequence.

GoodysGotaCuda · « **Reply #845 on:** March 07, 2018 - 11:38:25 AM »

Looking at your picture and redo�s, his glass comes up much higher than what you are showing. It looks like you are stopping at the �bottom� of the seal, rather than coming along side of it.

Maybe this makes sense

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70chall440 · « **Reply #846 on:** March 07, 2018 - 12:04:25 PM »

Got it, thanks for the picture. The front of my glass comes up higher than the back end, however just to be open, the weather strip isnt really seated completely (its just laying in the track) but I do agree with what you are saying. Maybe there is some adjustment I need to make to tilt the window in the door slightly? I do not have the door stops in (still looking for them, might have to make some). My drivers door is from a 70 Cuda as the original was badly damaged when I got it. This might have an effect as well. As complex as the window mechanisms are they are relatively crude as well.

redo1973 · « **Reply #847 on:** March 11, 2018 - 10:25:52 PM »

Here's a picture of that beveled washer I wrote about earlier. This washer goes between the lift rail and the glass. There is a paper washer that it sits on rather than directly on the glass. I used a rubber washer. The washer essentially provides a leveling of the rail to the front plastic piece that it connects to through the glass. I did not remove my rear quarter plastic. I will this week though. Do you need any pictures for the quarter glass?

70chall440 · « **Reply #848 on:** March 12, 2018 - 01:01:45 AM »

Thanks, I will check my windows as soon as I can. Unfortunately I have to go out of town this week and won't get back until Friday. I think I am good on the quarter glass other than if you can get a picture with the door open and getting the profile of the glass as it connects with the weatherstrip. I am interested to see how much you have it tilted in.

On a positive note, I about got my wiring done on the dash and am about ready to stab that in. I am going to have to sort out my steering column; I am using a street rod tilt column because I just cannot bring myself to spend $1000 on an Ididit and I definitely won't buy a Flaming River. It basically a GM tilt wheel, which I have worked some to adapt a Ebody can, probably is that I want to use a 9 bolt wheel and I cannot find a 9 bolt adapter with the length I need so I suspect I am going to have to make something.

redo1973 · « **Reply #849 on:** March 15, 2018 - 08:38:29 PM »

Here are some pics of that driver side quarter glass. Let me know if you need anything else.

70chall440 · « **Reply #850 on:** March 15, 2018 - 09:04:52 PM »

Excellent thanks

redo1973 · « **Reply #851 on:** March 15, 2018 - 09:19:35 PM »

You're welcome. How's that six pack air cleaner base working for you?

70chall440 · « **Reply #852 on:** March 15, 2018 - 09:42:13 PM »

I can�t really comment on it other than it fitting on the intake. I don�t have the hood on so I don�t know how it will work out yet.

redo1973 · « **Reply #853 on:** March 15, 2018 - 09:57:58 PM »

Okay, I'll keep watching.

70chall440 · « **Reply #854 on:** March 15, 2018 - 10:04:17 PM »

Excellent, I will definitely post as I go

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