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Offline Todd440

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Gen 3 hemi swap, if you could do it over again
« on: September 02, 2015 - 04:40:12 AM »
So, if you could do it over again, which swap products would you buy....mounts, pan,  headers, controller, ect.
I'm doing a 6.1 based stroker in a 70 challenger, and I'd like to stay with the 4-speed.




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Re: Gen 3 hemi swap, if you could do it over again
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2015 - 07:17:15 PM »
So far I'm not overly thrilled with my TTI conversion mounts, I'd be tempted to try the Schumacher's, but ensure they work with a/c and a car timing cover, if you do that.

I bought a complete truck engine, only to find out i needed to change out quite a bit of it to run the car timing cover and accessories. If you buy a 6.1L, that wouldn't be much of a problem.

My Moroso pan seems to work fine with the stock K and my bell housing, I haven't gotten headers in yet. For headers I plan on trying the $425 Doug's. From what I've seen, TTIs need some "finessing" to get them to fit and I much rather dent up $425 headers than $800 ones.


...That's about as far as I am right now. Most of my focus has been on the 6spd conversion.
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Re: Gen 3 hemi swap, if you could do it over again
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2015 - 08:01:54 PM »
Thanks for the reply.  Yeah, I'll be running a 6.1 front cover.  I was also looking at the dougs headers, and leaning towards the Schumacher mounts. 
You'll like the t56.  I did one in a late dart sport behind a magnum stroker.

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Re: Gen 3 hemi swap, if you could do it over again
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2015 - 08:26:14 PM »
Change from the Mopar AEM PCM to a Holley , MSD or Hotwire.. Do a Moser 9 instead of a 8.75 rear. Both things I will change in the future ..
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Re: Gen 3 hemi swap, if you could do it over again
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2015 - 08:57:03 PM »
What's the issue with the AEM?  Just curious.

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Re: Gen 3 hemi swap, if you could do it over again
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2015 - 08:34:03 AM »
With the AEM uses analog technology . It has to be tuned for each modification you do to the engine EI cams , porting , intake ect... Lots of companies now have self learning systems that need minimal tuning.  :bigsmile:
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Re: Gen 3 hemi swap, if you could do it over again
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2015 - 11:25:04 AM »
I just got off the phone with Schumacher, sounds like their motor mounts locate the engine a little lower than TTI's.
I'm going to try the Schumacher ones also due to the fact I like the connections better.

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Re: Gen 3 hemi swap, if you could do it over again
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2015 - 02:13:51 AM »
I would have gone with an aftermarket stand alone PCM instead of trying to use the factory PCM... 
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Re: Gen 3 hemi swap, if you could do it over again
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2015 - 04:53:35 AM »
I would have gone with an aftermarket stand alone PCM instead of trying to use the factory PCM...


I'm in the process of deciding that right now, any recommendations? I have the factory harness and computers.
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Re: Gen 3 hemi swap, if you could do it over again
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2015 - 10:36:15 AM »

A little lobbying here:
New Hemi guys, please chime in on this thread!


http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=108798.new#new
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Re: Gen 3 hemi swap, if you could do it over again
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2015 - 07:23:59 PM »
Well, I decided to go with the Hotwire harness, 2009 computer and Diablo tuner.   Showed up yesterday. 
Now I'm trying to to figure out if I want to use the factory harness or American autowire for the rest of the car.

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Re: Gen 3 hemi swap, if you could do it over again
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2015 - 07:50:10 PM »
American Auto Wire worked for me :)

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Re: Gen 3 hemi swap, if you could do it over again
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2015 - 04:24:53 AM »
American Auto Wire worked for me :)
Did you use the Mopar specific kit, or one of the universal styles?

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Re: Gen 3 hemi swap, if you could do it over again
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2015 - 04:41:30 AM »
Well, I decided to go with the Hotwire harness, 2009 computer and Diablo tuner.   Showed up yesterday. 
Now I'm trying to to figure out if I want to use the factory harness or American autowire for the rest of the car.


Is that a factory computer? I'm a little confused on harness/computer pricing, Bouchillions system runs 3300. Modern Muscle sells a system for 1300... Hotwire seem good, Chris really knows his stuff.
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Re: Gen 3 hemi swap, if you could do it over again
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2015 - 10:49:37 AM »
Yes, factory computer.  I'm going to be using a manual trans, so I'm sure that's part of Chris's recommendation for this package.