Front disc brake hose routing wrong?

[Cudakiller70]

70 Barracuda, front discs. These brake hoses just seem to be routed wrong and are too tight? Is this correct? Are other hose or connections available? Jim

[Katfish]

Hard to tell from pic, caliper should be towards front of car.
Hose will route over the upper ball joint nut.

Yours looks to be on bottom?

[1 Wild R/T]

Yup, your spindles are swapped side to side causing your calipers to be rear mounted, they should be mounted in front.... So your hose is bent back on itself...

[Cudakiller70]

O JUST LOVELY!!! WOW I would of never know that. So... I guess I'll be swapping spindles. Thanks I do appreciate the help Jim

[Cudakiller70]

Should I replace ball joints and tie rod ends no matter what or if they are in good shape can they be reused?
Also does this rotor look OEM stock or is that a spacer?

[Chryco Psycho]

If you do not use a pickle fork & just separate the points with a hammer so as not to cut the seals & the ball joints & tie rod ends seem tight why replace them ? If the joints are loose change them out , if you need new boots but the joints are ok you can buy poly boots , no need to separate the bottom ball joints as they just unbolt from the spindle .
 looks like a stock 2 piece rotor to me

[Cudakiller70]

I started tearing into this spindle change then did some searching and found some info that talked about putting the calipers to the rear, but using 73 charger hoses. They have a banjo end, so I'm going to try it and will let you know  what happens. Thanks everyone for your help. Jim

[1 Wild R/T]

People have swapped the calipers to rear hung for years but unless you relocate the steel line it's not correct... People get away with it but in reality the brake hose whether it's disc or drum should always cross the center of the steering axis... By crossing the center steering inputs cancel out length variations in the brake hose, keeping the caliper connection & the steel line connection both on the same side of the steering axis means the hose gets flexed quite a bit tighter & the length has to compensate for both steering & suspension travel....

[Katfish]

Plus it's harder to fully bleed if the screw is on bottom when it should be on top.

[Chryco Psycho]

Actually this will work just fine , I have done this often on pre 70 cars where the caliper will interfere with the sway bar
 BUT you need different calipers to accept the banjo type hose & with pin cailpers not sliders you may need different caliper mount brackets too , I do not recall a pin type caliper with banjo fitting .
 SO you are probably better off to just swap the caliper to the front in this case .

[1 Wild R/T]

Actually this will work just fine , I have done this often on pre 70 cars where the caliper will interfere with the sway bar
 BUT you need different calipers to accept the banjo type hose & with pin cailpers not sliders you may need different caliper mount brackets too , I do not recall a pin type caliper with banjo fitting .
 SO you are probably better off to just swap the caliper to the front in this case .

Yes it's been made to work, it still isn't the right way to do it... If you want to rear mount the calipers the steel line should be re-routed to the front....

[Chryco Psycho]

Not really, it is the correct way to do it  , Cars like the Mirada , Volare , 5th ave , FMJ bodies all have rear mounted steel lines with the banjo fittings , you just need the right caliper & hoses to make it work .

[Cudakiller70]

Yes it's been made to work, it still isn't the right way to do it... If you want to rear mount the calipers the steel line should be re-routed to the front....

1 wild R/T
Ok I took some pictures, one shows the hose connection location by the green tape/arrow. The connection is up high at the top and it's close to center of ball joint pivot, do you think that may work or if it was your car still forward mount them?
The bleeders are on top so that's OK.
To answer CP
The other picture shows the brake hose connect type going to the caliper, it's does have a small flange/copper washer. My thinking was the banjo would still seal,  but I really don't know this to be true, there seems to be enough flat area and with the copper washer I thought the banjo would seal?
Thanks Jim

[Chryco Psycho]

Thread size is probably different or different depth

[1 Wild R/T]

The problem you have with using a banjo bolt type hose it normally the banjo style hose is either mounted to a recessed area so the line prevents the fitting moving or the line has a clamp to locate it.... If you use a banjo without preventing the line from twisting the line can cause the banjo bolt to loosen....
Not a good thing...

As far as FMJ doing it with the line & the caliper on the same side of the steering axis, I just did a search for photos.. Found quite a few street rods with the old Aspen/Volare clip the had the lines done the wrong way but not a single Volare, Aspen, Mirada, St Regis with the line & the caliper on the same side of the steering axis...

Anyway, yeah move the calipers back where they belong...

If there was a real reason such as sway bar interference I'd say rear mount & move the steel line... Or do the typical cheat & mount it to the rear & use a long enough hose to not have a issue with it...