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418 STROKER BUILD HEADS
« on: November 03, 2015 - 02:30:20 PM »
 :wavingflag: Ok, I just got off the phone with my machine shop and they are saying my heads are toast. So I am looking at aluminum instead of iron, and I am sure I will put some port and polish on them.  My question is what are you guys running and what do you recommend? I have heard some not so good things about eddy heads so trying to see what else is out there. My other specs are below


4.080 bore
4 in stroke
4340 forged eagle crank
eagle h beam rods
diamond 4032 forged pistons
lunati 703 cam
eddy rpm air gap intake
mancini racing roller rockers
msd atomic efi
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Re: 418 STROKER BUILD HEADS
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2015 - 05:44:48 PM »
Airwolf is the first one that comes to mind
 W2 W5 are awesome heads but are expensive & will not work with the intake you have
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Re: 418 STROKER BUILD HEADS
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2015 - 12:16:16 PM »
Understanding that any head will need the same process of checking, validating, and correcting, there are any number of heads that would work. Personally I'd stay clear of MP stuff due to cost of purchase, setup, and special manifolding requirements. For what you're doing and the conservative cam choice - that's all a waste of effort. I think the best choice is the tried-and-true RPM 60779s. You can retain the valves, retainers, and locks but you'll have to replace the springs. Have a good 5 angle valve job done as part of the "check and correct" process and you will be fine. If you wanted to go bigger cam, and had planned fully porting, the Airwolf heads might get the nod understanding they  potentially may need more work and parts than the RPMs but overall can have a better port.

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Re: 418 STROKER BUILD HEADS
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2015 - 09:59:13 PM »
  :wavingflag: well, honestly a chevy guy and mopar engines are an enigma to me. I am learning but the curve is slow.  the reason I went so small on the cam is valve and piston clearances.  I have been doing some reading and it seems that anything over .512 lift may have issues.  Any thoughts?
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Re: 418 STROKER BUILD HEADS
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2015 - 10:40:10 PM »
if you are not replacing pistons & checking piston to valve clearance I agree .
what you have to keep in mind too is that the rod ratio is much higher in Mopar so the piston speeds & dwell time are dramatically different so the cma has to have a different profile to match this
 

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Re: 418 STROKER BUILD HEADS
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2015 - 08:02:55 PM »
 :wavingflag: Yes I am replacing the pistons, so you are saying not to get too agressive.  Any suggestions? I am looking at dish style just to keep her on pump Gas but have no idea how to figure the clearance for mopar. I actually have a chart for gm setups
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Re: 418 STROKER BUILD HEADS
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2015 - 11:25:16 PM »
The Eddy heads I have seen in person have terrible core shift / poor casting issues
theere has to be something better for similar $$

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Re: 418 STROKER BUILD HEADS
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2015 - 09:53:10 AM »
 :wavingflag: I was looking at a set of indy 360-1 but at 3500 plus 1200 for port and polish, and the fact I have to use a single plane intake I am not sure.  I also looked at Dr J's but they have quite a few complaints about people paying them and not receiving there order.
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Re: 418 STROKER BUILD HEADS
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2015 - 12:14:06 PM »
:wavingflag: I was looking at a set of indy 360-1 but at 3500 plus 1200 for port and polish, and the fact I have to use a single plane intake I am not sure.  I also looked at Dr J's but they have quite a few complaints about people paying them and not receiving there order.

yup - Indys are pricey. MPs stuff is junk (and pricey). Airwolves are too new (at least for me). Which leaves the RPMs that CP's never liked but that work very, VERY well for thousands of others (myself included). You can overspend, or get what will work reasonably. Your choice.
Is there a reason you feel anything needs to be ported? The cam you're using is not large at all. Porting beyond a mild cleanup will show zero dividends with the camshaft you note and in fact might hinder things a little because the increases will be relatively minor below .400" lift at the valve.

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Re: 418 STROKER BUILD HEADS
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2015 - 12:22:17 PM »
I am running the Indy RHS heads. They are closed chamber cast pieces with bigger valves. I haven't had any issues and they are reasonably priced.

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Re: 418 STROKER BUILD HEADS
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2015 - 03:26:04 PM »
 :wavingflag: I really like the indy stuff but that guarantees that I am changing to a single plane intake.  I just don't want to lose the low end curve. Still can't decide.....
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Re: 418 STROKER BUILD HEADS
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2015 - 06:22:24 PM »
They are the LA STYLE INDY "X" HEADS W/ 2.02". You can run whatever manifold you want. I am running the Eddy Air gap.

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Re: 418 STROKER BUILD HEADS
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2015 - 07:37:13 PM »
I thought we were talking about aluminum heads. Indy RHS Magnums are iron, and heavier than the factory stuff. They are cheaper, but once they are set up and on the engine running, they are within a few hundred of the RPMs that are in the same condition, and much lighter.

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Re: 418 STROKER BUILD HEADS
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2015 - 06:46:41 PM »
 :wavingflag: Well thanks for all the input guys. I have decided to go with indy t/a aluminum heads with full CNC port and polish. I am also going to step up the cam to a lunati 704 and bring the compression up to 10.25:1. once it is done and I get it assembled I am going to have it dynode and I will post results.  I will be using MSD electronics and EFI so it should be interesting. The efi will be controlling the timing as well.
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Re: 418 STROKER BUILD HEADS
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2015 - 11:32:42 PM »
Very interesting !

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