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Offline 3D

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EFI Tank
« on: November 25, 2015 - 11:19:42 AM »
I know this has been touched on before but im looking to pull the trigger on this EFI tank from Tanks Inc.
Any feedback or other options are welcome, going to order it up of Friday.

http://www.tanksinc.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=477/category_id=146/mode=prod/prd477.htm

Also will I need a pressure regulator of some sort or can I use the one from my donor vehicle?
Thinking of this Kit.

http://www.tanksinc.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=425/category_id=62/mode=prod/prd425.htm
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Re: EFI Tank
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2015 - 06:01:05 PM »
TanksInc seems to be working out well in the applications I have seen posted.

Yes, you will need a regulator, the Corvette one shown is pretty common in EFI conversions.
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Re: EFI Tank
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2015 - 06:12:20 PM »
I just ordered that tank, with the pump and fuel sending unit, seems like a good product. Not too pricey either. I did not order the regulator yet, think I'm going for 2 lines to the enginecompartment and putting the regulator on the return line. Seems to be the best solution, not the easiest though.
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Re: EFI Tank
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2015 - 08:22:43 PM »
I just ordered that tank, with the pump and fuel sending unit, seems like a good product. Not too pricey either. I did not order the regulator yet, think I'm going for 2 lines to the enginecompartment and putting the regulator on the return line. Seems to be the best solution, not the easiest though.


How did you determine that two lines running to the engine bay is a better solution?
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Re: EFI Tank
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2015 - 05:53:07 AM »
I read somewhere (or maybe someone advised me, don't remember now) that putting the regulator after the fuelrails will ensure full pressure to the rails at all times.
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Re: EFI Tank
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2015 - 07:11:46 AM »
I read somewhere (or maybe someone advised me, don't remember now) that putting the regulator after the fuelrails will ensure full pressure to the rails at all times.

Interesting. With a properly sized system, that won't be a problem. Most vehicles today, including the Hemi cars, don't have a return line all the way up to the engine. While some of those have PWM pumps to handle that, most do not and are just internally regulated at or near the pump. 

To me, the added return line all the way to the engine would just add weight, plumbing, cost and potential leak points.  :2cents:
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Re: EFI Tank
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2015 - 07:30:33 AM »
That does look like a nice set-up, they have a link on the suggested way to run the lines.

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Re: EFI Tank
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2015 - 10:37:21 AM »
Interesting. With a properly sized system, that won't be a problem. Most vehicles today, including the Hemi cars, don't have a return line all the way up to the engine. While some of those have PWM pumps to handle that, most do not and are just internally regulated at or near the pump. 

To me, the added return line all the way to the engine would just add weight, plumbing, cost and potential leak points.  :2cents:



True, fewer leak point is my concern also. Thats why I have not decided on that yet. It was discussed in this thread:
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=107574.msg1074808#msg1074808
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Re: EFI Tank
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2015 - 11:13:12 AM »
For me, I feel running the LS9904-KIT I think is sufficient with a stock 5.7 or 6.1 G3 Hemi.
Keep in mind this is a fixed pressure of 58 PSI.
With the other options (with the adjustable regulator) fuel pressure could be adjusted as required. 

Here's the link to the fuel line routing options.
http://www.tanksinc.com/index.cfm?ptype=results&Category_ID=162&home_id=-1&mode=cat

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Re: EFI Tank
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2015 - 03:35:54 PM »
Yep, The 3rd diagram down is what you want..Feed on the back of the rails , Y splitter and a regulator.. You will never go back...
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Re: EFI Tank
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2015 - 11:33:25 PM »
Finally picked up my gas tank, fuel pump, line kit and sending unit.
Very nice tank, Highly recommended!
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Re: EFI Tank
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2015 - 03:13:14 PM »
Looks nice, but wait.... is the filler tube in the back on a Cuda? (Had a Cuda, but 35 years ago, and I don't remember). Looks like the connections on the pump is gonna clear the trunk floor right? Mine is in a container on the way to this side of the planet.
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Re: EFI Tank
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2015 - 03:25:14 PM »
Looks nice, but wait.... is the filler tube in the back on a Cuda? (Had a Cuda, but 35 years ago, and I don't remember). Looks like the connections on the pump is gonna clear the trunk floor right? Mine is in a container on the way to this side of the planet.
Yup, we have one of the most trick fill up locations on a production car imo. The rear license plate is on a sprung hinge and flips up revealing the gas tank filler neck. Sure makes filling up at the gas station a heck of a lot easier. It seems a lot of production cars here in the states have their fill necks on the passenger (right) hand side and so all the pumps for that side are taken, but the other side is always vacant. Works for me!
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Re: EFI Tank
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2015 - 05:24:21 PM »
Yup, we have one of the most trick fill up locations on a production car imo. The rear license plate is on a sprung hinge and flips up revealing the gas tank filler neck. Sure makes filling up at the gas station a heck of a lot easier. It seems a lot of production cars here in the states have their fill necks on the passenger (right) hand side and so all the pumps for that side are taken, but the other side is always vacant. Works for me!

The first car i saw having the gas filler cap in the back was the barracuda, strange position to mount it, but special making the model sophisticated...

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Re: EFI Tank
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2015 - 01:14:52 PM »
I'm thinking about getting one of their stock replacement tanks and internal pumps for my carbureted car.  A great alternative to an externally mounted fuel pump and just have to regulate and install a return line.

The best solution to vapor lock for low pressure applications.