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Re: Who done it?
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2015 - 04:05:14 PM »
You nailed it Sinatra, as much as people on this site like Mopars, that's not the norm.
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Re: Who done it?
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2015 - 04:24:28 PM »
I've never seen this show, but people keep telling me I should watch it.  "You'd like it," they tell me, "You're a big Mopar guy and it's all Mopars."  Looking at this thread, it's obviously not about cars any more than Boyd Coddington's show was.  More "reality TV" bull, just centered around by preferred brand.  "Survivor" with a Pentastar.  No thanks!  It's all scripted; the sand was scripted too.  A restoration shop isn't interesting enough for a TV show that would last more than two episodes.

I'm honestly glad I saw this before I wasted irretrievable minutes of my life checking it out.
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Re: Who done it?
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2015 - 09:20:45 PM »
I have tried hard to like this show. However Marks antics and the made up drama keeps me away. I wouldn't mind if they need scripted material but why do they have to belittle the other people on the show?

It has gotten better as the seasons go by....however I still only watch it occasionally.



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Re: Who done it?
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2015 - 10:29:01 AM »
I have tried hard to like this show. However Marks antics and the made up drama keeps me away. I wouldn't mind if they need scripted material but why do they have to belittle the other people on the show?

It has gotten better as the seasons go by....however I still only watch it occasionally.

 :iagree: No need for the antics, no need to belittle anyone. The restored Mopars can do all the talk!

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Re: Who done it?
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2015 - 08:13:56 AM »
Unfortunately its drama and conflict that grab the viewers and boost the ratings...and when its TV...its all about the ratings.  :banghead:

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Re: Who done it?
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2015 - 01:31:24 AM »
Here's what I heard happened.  Mark was building the engine (I think around the same time he got the Bad Boy sand blaster a few seasons back) and he blasted the intake that goes on this engine.  Some sand got stuck in the runners and that's what came loose and ruined the engine.  This is straight from a person that was there on site.
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« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2015 - 03:40:01 AM »
Here's what I heard happened.  Mark was building the engine (I think around the same time he got the Bad Boy sand blaster a few seasons back) and he blasted the intake that goes on this engine.  Some sand got stuck in the runners and that's what came loose and ruined the engine.  This is straight from a person that was there on site.

That's the most logic explanation of what might have happened. Why sabotage a 340 engine when you have all the 426 Hemis there...  :dunno: So i think, no sabotage...

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Re: Who done it?
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2015 - 03:44:36 AM »
Saw the new episode today, it had some teaching of the hurst shifter, preparing metal surface for paint, but mostly painting. In the end they made a contest about who paints best. I've got to admit, Mark did a "Rocky" style training to prepare himself for the contest which was just hilarious  :smilielol:

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Re: Who done it?
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2015 - 08:06:40 AM »
Any link to a video that works in Canada ? Season 5 Episode 5
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Re: Who done it?
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2015 - 09:08:18 AM »
I keep reading bout this show and have Velocity, but not here in Canada. Season 1 is the only one available on DVD, bought it and can't wait for it to arrive.

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Re: Who done it?
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2015 - 10:37:31 AM »
Here's what I heard happened.  Mark was building the engine (I think around the same time he got the Bad Boy sand blaster a few seasons back) and he blasted the intake that goes on this engine.  Some sand got stuck in the runners and that's what came loose and ruined the engine.  This is straight from a person that was there on site.

I heard that too Cody, hard to say for sure and I don't think the drama on that one is finished yet!
A GYC'er wrote a follow up on another forum about the episode 5 engine failure...

"If you think the story we got that the engine was idling and then it exploded is fishy, then everyone at GYC would agree with you. We have yet to learn what "actually" happened to the Sunroof car, but we have our suspicions, some of them we mentioned in the show, some we won't say as we have zero proof to back it up. The point is, there was nothing to ever suspect the engine was faulty when it was installed - it was inspected by our machine-shop, it was ran on the Engine Runstand, it was driven for several days for it's initial reveal and it didn't have any problems. The owner had it for a year without issues.

Nevertheless, as you saw in the episode, the engine was ruined and so, because we cannot prove it wasn't our fault, we replaced the engine at no cost.

And for the individuals who have used this situation to use toward their negative campaign against GYC, guess what - we don't care. We have a whole lot filled with customers who appreciate the quality we do and it's because of how we handle rare situations like this that keeps the doors open. It will be that way long after the show expires.

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Re: Who done it?
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2015 - 12:07:05 PM »
I too have tried to "like" the show but just cannot. Mark is a egotistic idiot who I would never let touch one of my cars. What turned me off immediately is his repeated statements of being "the worlds foremost expert on Mopars". He is absolutely irritating to watch and infuriating to listen to. Yes they have built some nice cars but not any nicer than many shops around the country. If you can stand to watch more than one episode, there are numerous instances where he/they are absolutely wrong in what they are saying or have no clue what they are doing as evidenced by having sand in an intake (anytime you blast anything like an intake you thoroughly wash it, even X brand guys know that). Point here is that there are so many better qualified and experienced builders out there.

As for the rest of the crew (old or new), some seem to just want to work while others are or were going out of their way to get face time on screen. The new season is significantly better than the earlier one/s but still too much BS to deal with. I love Mopars and would love to watch a show dedicated to them, but not this one.

The only saving grace to this show is that they are saving some cars and because it is on TV, people will get the chance to get a car restored that otherwise they may not (the fame/notoriety aspect). That said, I am quite sure that there is or will be a "value increase" created by having a car done on the show; in other words is wont be long (if it hasn't happened already) they someone will believe their car is worth more because it was restored on TV by these clowns. It will not matter how good or bad the car is, because it was on TV will supposedly make it worth more. In the long run, this show it probably hurting the hobby more than helping it because like BJ, everyone who has any Mopar will now believe it is worth XXXXXX because they saw something like it on this show.

All this said, it is America and we can all choose to watch what we like. I choose not to watch this circus and would not go anywhere near them for any purpose. Sorry for the rant, but this is a sore spot for me personally. I am not a fan of Chip's work on Mopars but at least he has some actual skill, Mark and his motley crew are barely parts installers. If it were not for some high profile real experts in the hobby, GYC would still be turning out utterly incorrect restorations. I am not a "resto" guy but if you are going to do it and make huge claims of being "the best in the world", you should at least do it correctly. Being able to recite a part number doesn't make you an expert.
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Re: Who done it?
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2015 - 01:20:52 PM »

I'm having a problem trying to digest the media in the intake runner explanation.

Are they trying to say that much media in the oil pan could get past the rings? I really can't believe that. One way to vet that is to pull the valves and take a look at them as they would be put through the ringer.

I believe this was deliberately done.
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Re: Who done it?
« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2015 - 01:58:40 PM »
It's not something I'm proud of, but I blasted an intake, cleaned it in my parts wash tank and built a perfect 100% stock OEM engine.  Ran for about 75 miles and did exactly what Mark's engine did.  I own what I did and learned from it.  I'm not perfect....  I messed that engine up real good and had to rebuilt it from zero.  Mark isn't top the level he makes you think.  He can look at my cars, but I would NEVER let him touch anything I own.

Mark did this "sand job" to himself and does not want to look bad.  Think back to how mad he was when someone "chipped" a small bit of paint.  He about lost his mind coming unglued trying to find out who did it.  This time he's laid back and suggesting the sand was done deliberately.  lol  Sure   :naughty:   I like the show.  It's cool cars and entertaining to watch.  I've watched every episode from the start.  I'll watch every show he makes.  AND my hats off to him for taking the time to make a fun show.  It's a lot of work to produce a show and sell the advertising.  Not sure I could produce a show as well as him, but the cars he restores are really not very good.  I've seen several in person and a good friend of mine had him do 2 cars (Seasons 2 and 3).

Mark's mouth has a remarkable grasp on repeating OEM numbers from Dave Wise's guide book, but park one of his restorations at a car show and it likely to get a ticket for littering.

I'm having a problem trying to digest the media in the intake runner explanation.

Are they trying to say that much media in the oil pan could get past the rings? I really can't believe that. One way to vet that is to pull the valves and take a look at them as they would be put through the ringer.

I believe this was deliberately done.
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Re: Who done it?
« Reply #29 on: December 11, 2015 - 02:03:56 PM »

Cody

I've love to see a tear down of that motor but alas we will never see it.

You right we never found out what "rebuilt" meant so they could have replaced valves, bored it out, replaced practically everything.

If that was the case, if he admits it was because of the sand blasting snafu, how many folks will want to give him a car to restore then?

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