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Hydroboost retrofit questions
« on: December 05, 2015 - 07:43:02 AM »
Is there a thread giving details on installing a 95 astro van hydroboost on a 73 cuda? Does anyone make an adapter plate to mount it to the firewall?
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Re: Hydroboost retrofit questions
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2015 - 11:25:16 AM »
Brad should crank out a dozen of these

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Re: Hydroboost retrofit questions
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2015 - 08:34:55 PM »
I assume you mean brads70?

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Re: Hydroboost retrofit questions
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2015 - 08:50:01 PM »
Is there a thread giving details on installing a 95 astro van hydroboost on a 73 cuda? Does anyone make an adapter plate to mount it to the firewall?
Thanks jimmycuda71

Interested as well.  :wave:
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Re: Hydroboost retrofit questions
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2015 - 09:07:57 PM »
Yes Brads 70 , with a small template I bet he could whip up a dozen or so very quickly

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Re: Hydroboost retrofit questions
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2015 - 09:09:28 PM »
Yes Brads 70 , with a small template I bet he could whip up a dozen or so very quickly

Any pictures or dimensions? I have access to some pretty decent tools myself.  :icon16:
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Re: Hydroboost retrofit questions
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2015 - 07:22:25 PM »
I had a friend in Calgary with a CNC , if I was still there I would already have them made .

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Re: Hydroboost retrofit questions
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2015 - 04:41:31 PM »
To those out there pondering this conversion...
It is simple. I converted mine several years ago.
Have heard that the Astros van one is most popular. I rummaged through many junk yards. What I found was they appeared to all be basically the same piece. Even across auto makers. Checked Astros and Suburbans, heavy trucks from Ford, Chevy and Dodge. Differences are mounting plates and master cylinder mountings. But all main bodies I checked were exact. It appears all are produced by the same supplier.

IIRC all the push shafts that connect to your pedal extend the same distance amount. There were differences with the eye diameter.
The power brake setups don't push directly to mc from pedal like the manuals do. They utilize a sub shaft and lever setup. I retained mine and shortened the rear push shaft. Cut and welded. I read on the above referenced thread (Brads) someone cut and threaded theirs. My 74s firewall already had 6 bolt holes. Uppers for power setup lowers for manual.
I ended up using hydroboost unit from a later 90s Mustang. 3 of the 4 mounting bolt holes were in correct location already. I elongated the single hole in unit's plate to match car. Adaptor plate is only a 1/2 in. thick plate. My setup utilized the upper pattern.
Manual setup cars would use lower bolt pattern. Brads post stated push shaft (I assume originally manual setup) did not have to be cut as I did on mine.
My reason for Mustang unit was because it sits at a 90 deg rotation from the others. There is a pressure canister on them and this design (rotation) provided me more clearance for turbo piping. Plus I figured that master cylinder options would be plentiful.
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Re: Hydroboost retrofit questions
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2015 - 04:52:54 PM »
Sweet stuff here.
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Re: Hydroboost retrofit questions
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2015 - 08:46:03 PM »
To those out there pondering this conversion...
It is simple. I converted mine several years ago.
Have heard that the Astros van one is most popular. I rummaged through many junk yards. What I found was they appeared to all be basically the same piece. Even across auto makers. Checked Astros and Suburbans, heavy trucks from Ford, Chevy and Dodge. Differences are mounting plates and master cylinder mountings. But all main bodies I checked were exact. It appears all are produced by the same supplier.

IIRC all the push shafts that connect to your pedal extend the same distance amount. There were differences with the eye diameter.
The power brake setups don't push directly to mc from pedal like the manuals do. They utilize a sub shaft and lever setup. I retained mine and shortened the rear push shaft. Cut and welded. I read on the above referenced thread (Brads) someone cut and threaded theirs. My 74s firewall already had 6 bolt holes. Uppers for power setup lowers for manual.
I ended up using hydroboost unit from a later 90s Mustang. 3 of the 4 mounting bolt holes were in correct location already. I elongated the single hole in unit's plate to match car. Adaptor plate is only a 1/2 in. thick plate. My setup utilized the upper pattern.
Manual setup cars would use lower bolt pattern. Brads post stated push shaft (I assume originally manual setup) did not have to be cut as I did on mine.
My reason for Mustang unit was because it sits at a 90 deg rotation from the others. There is a pressure canister on them and this design (rotation) provided me more clearance for turbo piping. Plus I figured that master cylinder options would be plentiful.
Mike.




Yeah great info here.  This is on my want list.

So did you make the adaptor plate or is that the piece that came on the mustang?

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Re: Hydroboost retrofit questions
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2015 - 11:18:40 PM »
Jas, there's a thread on here somewhere where a member (I can't remember who) who lives in Hamilton I think, makes these adapters and I think they were like $25 Can. Check it out and I'll look myself, as this is something that I'm thinking of doing myself, too. Ian

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Re: Hydroboost retrofit questions
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2015 - 11:27:10 PM »
Interested as well.  :wave:
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Re: Hydroboost retrofit questions
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2015 - 04:54:40 PM »
Yeah great info here.  This is on my want list.

So did you make the adaptor plate or is that the piece that came on the mustang?

Jason

Yes, what you see is the factory mounting plate. The piece where one hole is added to match car. Lower left bolt in pic. Adapter plate is really only a spacer plate. 1/2 thick aluminum with the mounting holes. Mounting bolts just pass thru it along with clearance for push shaft.
Used a sheet of rubber for the gasket.

Also note original lines use double inverted flair on the lines. The new ones use a bubble type. I purchased new lines with correct bubble ends. Bent and cut to length and used a hand tool to form correct inverted flair for the old style mounting.

Mike
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