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Re: Northerners storing rides for the winter
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2015 - 09:37:50 AM »
Topcat, do I recall correctly that you work for Interstate?

No longer selling for Interstate
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Re: Northerners storing rides for the winter
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2015 - 10:04:33 AM »
I barely do anything.

Make sure the tires are inflated to the proper level, fill up the gas tank with regular pump gas, add a touch of stabilizer, drive it in the garage, disconnect the battery, throw a cover on it and I will see it in the spring.

No point in starting it, only builds condensation.

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Re: Northerners storing rides for the winter
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2015 - 10:07:03 AM »
You know what I do? Nothing. I pull the car in the warehouse, which is not heated, and into one of those car storage envelopes. I toss about a dozen anti moisture bags under the car and take the battery out and bring it home. Zip it up and its good night until April. I've been doing it that way for 15 years and it always starts up when I take it out and I've never had any other problems.   

 :iagree: I often store my cars for long periods of time and I don't do much.  park em in a good safe place, throw the cover on, and usually a battery tender but that's it

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Re: Northerners storing rides for the winter
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2015 - 08:00:10 PM »
battery tender and stabil. 
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Re: Northerners storing rides for the winter
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2015 - 10:24:36 AM »
No longer selling for Interstate

But knowing that you've worked for Interstate, I'm inclined to listen to your advice on batteries  :bigsmile:


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Re: Northerners storing rides for the winter
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2016 - 12:05:25 AM »
But knowing that you've worked for Interstate, I'm inclined to listen to your advice on batteries  :bigsmile:

Calcium is an inert substance (filler if you will) that is alloy'd into with the Lead when they pour it into the molds.
This is basically no different than cutting your product so you have more volume to spread it out longer.

One other thing...Calcium is used to help harden (alloy) the lead plates to keep them stiffer.
They do that to keep the plates from bending under heat and shorting out eventually.
How much to add is the chef's to decide.

There's only 3 major battery manufacturer's in North America.
Exide
Johnson Controls
East Penn Deka

Exide carries some unique group sizes like for the 1st generation Mustangs.
Johnson Controls is known as Interstate.

There are some smaller firms in America like Northstar making higher performance batteries.
They're using 100% uncut virgin lead. That's lead never been recycled before.
There may be Calcium but the pure lead makes it a denser weight of battery.
They weigh significantly more group size to any other competitors group size.

Very few AGM's in the market are using 100% virgin lead like the Northstar.
The competitors majorically are using recycled lead. 

If you have a battery with denser and more pure lead, you'll reap the rewards of a combined higher cranking amps and amp hours. The balance of both is the key.

More plates in each cell makes more cranking amps.
Less cells creates more amp hours=reserve.
Boat batteries have super thick plates (like for trolling) and low cranking power for the most part.

The more cells, the less fluid, the hotter they get under extreme weather, and wear out sooner.

I'm running a group 34 Northstar on my Hemi and it is consistently on top for cranking and reserve for this behemoth engine cranking demands. It jumps back to 100% charged very quick once she's running for a few minutes.

Some claim Optima's are the best.
When I was selling batteries, we would get anywhere from 2-6 per week that were failed will still under warranty. Earlier Optima's had a definite better performance lifespan than the present one's now being made.
Some say they changed once they moved production to Mexico. Optima's claim to fame is the cinnamon roll AGM cell design. It's thought that you can stuff more lead in per cell. The cells are very thin and wrapped with an absorbent fiberglass mat soaked with Electrolyte.   

On conventional wet cell batteries, I prefer East Penn Deka any day of the week over the other two competitors. Way too many times picking up cores: Interstate in one hand group 31. East Penn group 31 in the other; Night & day difference in the weight of each of them! Apples vs. Apples. East Penn's probably weigh 10-15 lbs more in that group size.

Mike, Fremont, CA.


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Re: Northerners storing rides for the winter
« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2016 - 12:17:49 AM »
And one more thing to add:

Caterpillar has their batteries made by none other than East Penn.
Their own proprietary design and specs.

The most demanding batteries being used in the most extreme use of equipment in extreme climates.   
Mike, Fremont, CA.


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Re: Northerners storing rides for the winter
« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2016 - 09:22:12 AM »
Battery tender, stable store and I fire it up every once in a while.
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Re: Northerners storing rides for the winter
« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2016 - 11:52:09 AM »
I am lucky to gt 2 years out of any battery down here 18 months is the norm  , the heat just kills them , even have a Deka , did not last any longer than the others . Deka was $200 , Tasco $80  same life span !  I have not tried an Optima here  my vans never sit for 24 hrs

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Re: Northerners storing rides for the winter
« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2016 - 12:28:55 PM »
The BIGS method - fuel stabilizer, w some marvel mystery oil, over inflate the tires, battery in the basement, car cover, charcoal under the car (not the match light kind)  :grinyes: :grinyes:
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Re: Northerners storing rides for the winter
« Reply #25 on: January 03, 2016 - 03:04:59 PM »
Never heard of using charcoal. Is that for rodent deterent?
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Re: Northerners storing rides for the winter
« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2016 - 04:27:30 PM »
rodent deterent?

Exactly! I taken some ribbing over the years for this and have caught mice in the garage BUT never in my car never any chewed wires.  :thumbsup:
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Re: Northerners storing rides for the winter
« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2016 - 09:37:35 PM »
I am lucky to gt 2 years out of any battery down here 18 months is the norm  , the heat just kills them , even have a Deka , did not last any longer than the others . Deka was $200 , Tasco $80  same life span !  I have not tried an Optima here  my vans never sit for 24 hrs

Heat of the Summer weakens batteries.
All battery types hate heat.

Hard amp hour draw usage in the winter because of more accessories on finishes them off.
i.e: Cold engine, Heater, wipers, headlights, heated seats etc. 
Mike, Fremont, CA.


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Re: Northerners storing rides for the winter
« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2016 - 07:11:59 AM »
For rodent control, has anyone tried mint oil? I was reading abot this a couple of days ago. The article said to mix a few drops of mint oil with water in a spray bottle and spray it all over the garage and in the car. The article says it will repel rodents and spiders.


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Re: Northerners storing rides for the winter
« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2016 - 08:39:43 AM »
I nave heard dryer sheets are sup post to work good at keeping rodents away!