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Re: Power Steering Box Rebuild
« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2016 - 12:06:13 PM »
It's not rocket science... Jason, did you get my PM ?

Yes I did.  sorry for the delay.  I replayed this morning.

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Re: Power Steering Box Rebuild
« Reply #31 on: January 16, 2016 - 07:37:45 AM »
Hot water parts washer with rust preventing to rinse oil off.  Then wire wheel housing. Polish any shaft seal areas  if bad send to chromers.  Rinse again   If you don't have parts washer available.  Brake clean should work just don't leave parts unprotected for too long as they will likely rust after a few days   As far as the bearings go use a blind puller. Probably pick one up from p auto. 
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Re: Power Steering Box Rebuild
« Reply #32 on: January 16, 2016 - 09:54:16 PM »
I have a feeling I might need to do a rebuild myself. Noticed power steering fluid sitting on the end near where the steering column connects to the gearbox. I wipe the fluid off and it reappears the next time I check. I have TTI headers on the car and really don't feel moving the drivers side header to get space. Where did you decide to pick up your rebuild kit?

Thanks for documenting the dismantling of the steering gearbox. It really helps to get a better idea of what I would be getting into.
 

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Re: Power Steering Box Rebuild
« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2016 - 09:48:33 PM »
   As far as the bearings go use a blind puller. Probably pick one up from p auto.


OH man that looks like the ticket.

http://www.princessauto.com/en/detail/powerfist-blind-bearing-puller-set/A-p8104036e

but ouch on the price.   :money:

I am going to check and see if Parts Source Rents that tool.

As far as cleaning the parts, I am going to use some mineral spirst and a brush on them, dry em off  good and coat them in power steering fluid.

I have a feeling I might need to do a rebuild myself. Noticed power steering fluid sitting on the end near where the steering column connects to the gearbox. I wipe the fluid off and it reappears the next time I check. I have TTI headers on the car and really don't feel moving the drivers side header to get space. Where did you decide to pick up your rebuild kit?

Thanks for documenting the dismantling of the steering gearbox. It really helps to get a better idea of what I would be getting into.
 


Hey no problem, always happy to help.  I am going to get my rebuild kit form Rock Auto.

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Re: Power Steering Box Rebuild
« Reply #35 on: January 19, 2016 - 10:35:23 AM »

Hey no problem, always happy to help.  I am going to get my rebuild kit form Rock Auto.

Jason
I've always been happy with what I got from RA, but if I were you I'd look at finding alternate 'reaction' springs. I've never taken a box apart, I bought mine from Steer 'n' Gear in PA. But when I was talking to the salesman at SnG about level 1, 2, 3, he said the only difference is the reaction springs. They are matched, and they are stiffer. So when you are putting your box back together, maybe you can make it better by installing stiffer reaction springs.
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Re: Power Steering Box Rebuild
« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2016 - 11:54:01 AM »
I've always been happy with what I got from RA, but if I were you I'd look at finding alternate 'reaction' springs. I've never taken a box apart, I bought mine from Steer 'n' Gear in PA. But when I was talking to the salesman at SnG about level 1, 2, 3, he said the only difference is the reaction springs. They are matched, and they are stiffer. So when you are putting your box back together, maybe you can make it better by installing stiffer reaction springs.

Steer & Gear & Firm Feel both likely manufacture their own Reaction Springs.... Cause Reaction Springs aren't like any normal spring, most people looking at them would think they are a washer or a shim of some sort.... 25+ years ago I made a high feed back steering box by doubling up on the springs...
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Re: Power Steering Box Rebuild
« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2016 - 10:36:26 PM »
I've always been happy with what I got from RA, but if I were you I'd look at finding alternate 'reaction' springs. I've never taken a box apart, I bought mine from Steer 'n' Gear in PA. But when I was talking to the salesman at SnG about level 1, 2, 3, he said the only difference is the reaction springs. They are matched, and they are stiffer. So when you are putting your box back together, maybe you can make it better by installing stiffer reaction springs.


Steer & Gear & Firm Feel both likely manufacture their own Reaction Springs.... Cause Reaction Springs aren't like any normal spring, most people looking at them would think they are a washer or a shim of some sort.... 25+ years ago I made a high feed back steering box by doubling up on the springs...


If I thought I could find stiffer reaction springs, I would get some.  I am sure Steer and Gear and Firm Feel manufacture there own, as mentioned above, and would not sell them separately.  The rebuild kit from Rock Auto does not appear to come with any reaction springs.

I agree the reaction springs are not what you would expect, certainly more like a shim.  I will try and get a few pics up of them shortly.

My plan is to double up the reaction springs, because as luck would have it, I have second box, so unless something is screwed up inside that box, I am going to steal the springs from that box for the rebuilt box.  I figure that should stiffen it up some!

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Re: Power Steering Box Rebuild
« Reply #38 on: January 20, 2016 - 08:17:56 AM »
I have a spare box up here if your stuck .
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Re: Power Steering Box Rebuild
« Reply #39 on: January 20, 2016 - 08:53:09 AM »
I have a spare box up here if your stuck .

Thanks Brad.  Are they any parts you don't have????

I hope to have my main box out of the car and disassembled in the next few weeks.  I will let you know if there are any problems with that box.

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Re: Power Steering Box Rebuild
« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2016 - 01:03:55 PM »
Thanks Brad.  Are they any parts you don't have????
The ones he doesn't have he machines out of a block of steel. :ylsuper:
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Re: Power Steering Box Rebuild
« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2016 - 06:43:16 PM »
 :lol:   I have a spare box because a member on here helped me out when I got my FF box . He lived close and donated a core to save me shipping costs.  :2thumbs:
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Re: Power Steering Box Rebuild
« Reply #42 on: January 24, 2016 - 08:56:03 PM »
:lol:   I have a spare box because a member on here helped me out when I got my FF box . He lived close and donated a core to save me shipping costs.  :2thumbs:

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Re: Power Steering Box Rebuild
« Reply #43 on: January 24, 2016 - 09:01:11 PM »


If I thought I could find stiffer reaction springs, I would get some.  I am sure Steer and Gear and Firm Feel manufacture there own, as mentioned above, and would not sell them separately.  The rebuild kit from Rock Auto does not appear to come with any reaction springs.

I agree the reaction springs are not what you would expect, certainly more like a shim.  I will try and get a few pics up of them shortly.

My plan is to double up the reaction springs, because as luck would have it, I have second box, so unless something is screwed up inside that box, I am going to steal the springs from that box for the rebuilt box.  I figure that should stiffen it up some!

Jason


Here are some pics of the reaction spring...





As you can see these are virtually paper thin.

I think I should be able to double them up with out causing any problems, and increasing the stiffness on the box.

Jason
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Re: Power Steering Box Rebuild
« Reply #44 on: January 24, 2016 - 09:25:08 PM »
How do you tell if a reaction spring is worn out?
Do they wear out?

Are they a spring washer design originally?

Putting two together makes sense.
Hope it works out for you.
Mike, Fremont, CA.