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    Btch n Blue

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    Re: 5.7 Hemi Dart project
    « Reply #30 on: June 09, 2005 - 10:18:27 PM »
    Quote from: Rev-It-Up on June 09, 2005 - 10:08:45 PM
    I don't think so.  I think you'll have to represent us at Carlisle!
    Consider it done!! :thumbs:

     :burnout: :burnout: :burnout: :burnout:

    I'll just tell them it's a 340 until I pop the hood... :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

    Naaaaa... I'll tell 'em it's a slant six... I've got the perfect tires to do it with too.... :grinyes: :grinyes: :cool: :cool: :wave:
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    Re: 5.7 Hemi Dart project
    « Reply #31 on: June 09, 2005 - 10:22:42 PM »
    Very cool build-up, MoparMan!!!  That'll be really neat to have that 5.7 Hemi in the Dart. :grinyes: :grinyes:  As always, be sure to keep us updated with your progress. :thumbs:
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    Re: 5.7 Hemi Dart project
    « Reply #32 on: June 09, 2005 - 10:31:12 PM »

    4C,
     I knew about the week long event that the DreamCruise has become. We were planning on catching a day or two at the Nats and then drive up to the DreamCruise on Sunday and stay for that entire week.
    Now I think we're going to fly in on Thursday 8/18 and leave on Sunday 8/21.


    JS27N0B,
    You are right on time..
    Since you offered, I do need a wiring diagram. I need a diagram of the engine wiring harness.

    BTW, How did drinking water affect two Hemis?  Someone put water in the tanks?


    MoparMan
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    Re: 5.7 Hemi Dart project
    « Reply #33 on: June 09, 2005 - 10:36:49 PM »
    Quote from: MoparMan on June 09, 2005 - 10:31:12 PM
    4C,
     I knew about the week long event that the DreamCruise has become. We were planning on catching a day or two at the Nats and then drive up to the DreamCruise on Sunday and stay for that entire week.
    Now I think we're going to fly in on Thursday 8/18 and leave on Sunday 8/21.


    JS27N0B,
    You are right on time..
    Since you offered, I do need a wiring diagram. I need a diagram of the engine wiring harness.

    BTW, How did drinking water affect two Hemis?  Someone put water in the tanks?


    MoparMan
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    Moparman . . . is it your birthday??    I only live less than an hour from the Woodward Cruise so I will see ya there!!   :worship:   :thumbs: 
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    Re: 5.7 Hemi Dart project
    « Reply #34 on: June 09, 2005 - 10:37:19 PM »
    Quote from: MoparMan on June 09, 2005 - 10:31:12 PM


    BTW, How did drinking water affect two Hemis?  Someone put water in the tanks?


    MoparMan
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    mabey someone put the hemis in water, mabey a lake
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    Re: 5.7 Hemi Dart project
    « Reply #35 on: June 09, 2005 - 10:49:55 PM »
    4C,
     Good deal !  Hope to see ya'..
    I'll be making air/hotel/car reservations in the next day or so. I was told the Troy area is a good area to stay in. Do you have any suggestions?

    Thanks,
    MoparMan
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    Btch n Blue

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    Re: 5.7 Hemi Dart project
    « Reply #36 on: June 10, 2005 - 07:09:03 AM »
    I've been out there myself as well.... the Troy area is a good area... Pontiac is a little rougher, but you'll be fine!! :thumbs:

    Looks like I'll see ya there as well this year!! :grinyes:
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    Re: 5.7 Hemi Dart project
    « Reply #37 on: June 10, 2005 - 10:55:57 PM »
     Here is the list for electrical, It would help if you let me know a specific circuit you are after.

    The Hemis drank water BTW Major hydrolock

    8 - ELECTRICAL
      BATTERY SYSTEM
     BATTERY
     WIRING DIAGRAMS
     CHARGING SYSTEM 1 - GAS EXCEPT SRT
     CHARGING SYSTEM 2 - DIESEL
     CHARGING SYSTEM 4 - SRT
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 55 - DIESEL
     GROUND DISTRIBUTION 6
     POWER DISTRIBUTION 11
     POWER DISTRIBUTION 21
     STARTING SYSTEM 1 - GAS EXCEPT SRT
     STARTING SYSTEM 2 - DIESEL
     STARTING SYSTEM 4 - SRT
     CHARGING
     BATTERY TEMPERATURE SENSOR
     WIRING DIAGRAMS
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 11 - NGC
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 60 - DIESEL
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 73 - SRT
     SPLICE INFORMATION 1 - EXCEPT SRT
     SPLICE INFORMATION 9 - SRT
     CONNECTOR PINOUT
     BATTERY TEMPERATURE SENSOR - BLACK 2 WAY
     GENERATOR
     WIRING DIAGRAMS
     CHARGING SYSTEM 1 - GAS EXCEPT SRT
     CHARGING SYSTEM 2 - DIESEL
     CHARGING SYSTEM 4 - SRT
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 54 - DIESEL
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 6 - NGC
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 75 - SRT
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 77 - SRT
     GROUND DISTRIBUTION 5 - GAS
     GROUND DISTRIBUTION 7 - DIESEL
     POWER DISTRIBUTION 11
     CONNECTOR PINOUT
     GENERATOR - BLACK 2 WAY - EXCEPT SRT
     GENERATOR - BLACK 2 WAY - SRT
     GENERATOR - COMPONENT SIDE
     ELECTRONIC CONTROL MODULES
     CONTROLLER ANTILOCK BRAKE
     WIRING DIAGRAMS
     ALL WHEEL ANTILOCK BRAKES 1
     ALL WHEEL ANTILOCK BRAKES 2
     BUS COMMUNICATIONS 5
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 10 - NGC
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 5 - NGC
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 61 - DIESEL
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 74 - SRT
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 77 - SRT
     POWER DISTRIBUTION 14
     POWER DISTRIBUTION 30
     POWER DISTRIBUTION 46
     REAR WHEEL ANTILOCK BRAKES 1
     REAR WHEEL ANTILOCK BRAKES 2
     VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL 2
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 13 - NGC
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 54 - DIESEL
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 59 - DIESEL
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 75 - SRT
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 8 - NGC
     GROUND DISTRIBUTION 7 - DIESEL
     GROUND DISTRIBUTION 8
     CHARGING SYSTEM 1 - GAS EXCEPT SRT
     CHARGING SYSTEM 4 - SRT
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 1 - NGC
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 10 - NGC
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 11 - NGC
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 12 - NGC
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 13 - NGC
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 14 - NGC
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 15 - NGC
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 16 - NGC
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 17 - 3.7L/4.7L
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 18 - 3.7L/4.7L
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 19 - 3.7L/4.7L
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 2 - NGC
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 20 - 3.7L/4.7L
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 21 - 3.7L/4.7L
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 22 - 3.7L/4.7L
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 23 - 3.7L/4.7L
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 24 - 3.7L/4.7L
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 25 - 5.7L
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 26 - 5.7L
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 27 - 5.7L
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 28 - 5.7L
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 29 - NGC
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 3 - NGC
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 30 - 3.7L
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 31 - 5.7L LIGHT DUTY
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 32 - 5.7L
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 34 - 5.7L
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 35 - 5.7L
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 36 - 5.7L
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 37 - 5.7L
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 38 - 5.7L
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 39 - 5.7L
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 4 - NGC
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 40 - 5.7L
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 5 - NGC
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 6 - NGC
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 68 - SRT
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 69 - SRT
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 7 - NGC
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 70 - SRT
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 71 - SRT
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 72 - SRT
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 73 - SRT
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 74 - SRT
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 75 - SRT
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 76 - SRT
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 77 - SRT
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 78 - SRT
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 8 - NGC
     FUEL/IGNITION SYSTEM 9 - NGC
     GROUND DISTRIBUTION 19 - SRT
     GROUND DISTRIBUTION 4 - GAS
     GROUND DISTRIBUTION 5 - GAS
     OVERHEAD CONSOLE 3 - NGC
     POWER DISTRIBUTION 11
     POWER DISTRIBUTION 19 - EXCEPT SRT
     POWER DISTRIBUTION 21
     POWER DISTRIBUTION 24
     POWER DISTRIBUTION 29 - NGC
     POWER DISTRIBUTION 33
     POWER DISTRIBUTION 39 - EXCEPT SRT
     POWER DISTRIBUTION 41
     POWER DISTRIBUTION 42
     POWER DISTRIBUTION 47 - GAS EXCEPT SRT
     POWER DISTRIBUTION 54
     POWER DISTRIBUTION 56 - SRT
     REAR WHEEL ANTILOCK BRAKES 1
     REAR WHEEL ANTILOCK BRAKES 2
     SPLICE INFORMATION 10 - SRT
     SPLICE INFORMATION 2 - 3.7L/4.7L
     SPLICE INFORMATION 3 - 5.7L
     SPLICE INFORMATION 4 - NGC
     SPLICE INFORMATION 8 - 3.7L/4.7L
     SPLICE INFORMATION 9 - SRT
     STARTING SYSTEM 1 - GAS EXCEPT SRT
     STARTING SYSTEM 4 - SRT
     TRANSMISSION CONTROL SYSTEM 1 - NGC
     TRANSMISSION CONTROL SYSTEM 2 - NGC
     TRANSMISSION CONTROL SYSTEM 3 - NGC
     TRANSMISSION CONTROL SYSTEM 4 - NGC
     TRANSMISSION CONTROL SYSTEM 5 - NGC
     VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL 2
     VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL 3 - GAS
     VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL 7
     CONNECTOR PINOUT
     POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE C1 - BLACK 32 WAY - SRT
     POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE C1 - BLACK 38 WAY - NGC
     POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE C2 - ORANGE 38 WAY - NGC
     POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE C2 - WHITE 32 WAY - SRT
     POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE C3 - GRAY 32 WAY - SRT
     POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE C3 - WHITE 38 WAY - NGC
     POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE C4 - GREEN 38 WAY - NGC
     SENTRY KEY IMMOBILIZER MODULE
     WIRING DIAGRAMS
     
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    Re: 5.7 Hemi Dart project
    « Reply #38 on: June 10, 2005 - 10:57:18 PM »
    Sorry wouldn't take the whole list so I had to cut it back.

    Basically tell me exactly what you are after and I can e-mail it to you.
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    Re: 5.7 Hemi Dart project
    « Reply #39 on: July 19, 2005 - 10:22:53 PM »

    Update..
    Things are going a little slow with the 5.7 Hemi Dart Project. I'm waiting for parts to become available.
    TTI told me a week or so ago that the engine mounts are in the welding shop. The headers are about 4-5 weeks away.
    I spoke with Mopar Performance at the Carlisle show. They will have the 5.7 Hemi intake manifold, computer, wiring harness and other parts available in about 30 days.

    I did get the power steering swapped out for the manual steering (16:1 ratio). I have a friend welding in some frame connectors this week. It will also be getting the new-style brake master cylinder (aluminum and plastic) this week.

    Stay tuned !!

    MoparMan
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    Re: 5.7 Hemi Dart project
    « Reply #40 on: July 20, 2005 - 08:16:03 AM »
     :thumbs: Good news Bob, I was a bit disapointed when you said at Carlisle that the project had come to a basic halt because of the parts not being available, but sounds like in the next couple weeks progress will once again be on it's way. Thanks for the update.
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    Re: 5.7 Hemi Dart project
    « Reply #41 on: July 20, 2005 - 06:29:15 PM »
    it is going to be mpi right??

    will the stock mantifold not work? or do you just want bigger and better??
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    Re: 5.7 Hemi Dart project
    « Reply #42 on: July 20, 2005 - 08:56:14 PM »
    Thanks for the update!!

    After driving a couple of SRT8's I can't wait to see if the 6.1L gets into the program, those cars are rockets!! MT test was 13.2@108mph. I can see a lot of vintage muscle cowering with numbers like that being posted by a new 300.
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    Re: 5.7 Hemi Dart project
    « Reply #43 on: July 20, 2005 - 09:29:05 PM »
    Quote from: JS27N0B on July 20, 2005 - 08:56:14 PM
    After driving a couple of SRT8's I can't wait to see if the 6.1L gets into the program, those cars are rockets!! MT test was 13.2@108mph. I can see a lot of vintage muscle cowering with numbers like that being posted by a new 300.

    Yeah, I really hope MP starts making crate engines out of it too. The 6.1 is amazing, I read that GSM made 500 RWHP with 6.4 lbs of boost. If it werent for the high compression, they could have run more boost and probably hit at least 550 RWHP. I also saw that one guy ran a 12.99 with a stock SRT8 300.....simply amazing cars......
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    Re: 5.7 Hemi Dart project
    « Reply #44 on: July 22, 2005 - 10:17:38 PM »

    6pak2go,
     Yes, I will be using MPI. I want to use the Mopar Performance intake and Throttle Body because it looks way better than the stock intake, and it doesn't use the stock drive-by-wire throttle system. All of their parts should be plug & play without mixing and matching any stock parts.

    WSM,
     I'm not too worried about the parts being slow because their plenty other things to do to prepare the car for the swap. I'm currently spraying the valve covers Wrinkle Black just like the 426 Hemi. It's going to look like a "baby" 426 Hemi engine when I'm done.

    JS27N0B,
     I like what I've reading about the 6.1 engine. But it sounds like those engines are not going to be available for awhile as they will be low production in SRT8 vehicles. It would be hard to get one for a swap project. Since the heads are a lot better than the ones on the 5.7 engine, I'd like to see Mopar Performance offer them.

    MoparMan
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