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Offline soundcontrol

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Making dents in headers
« on: January 13, 2016 - 12:58:17 PM »
Interesting test of denting headers for clearance:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azPKIjxmmdU#t=688
/ Ken
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Re: Making dents in headers
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2016 - 01:11:37 PM »
Yup, surprised by the results...
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Re: Making dents in headers
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2016 - 01:28:04 PM »
bash away!

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Re: Making dents in headers
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2016 - 02:42:29 PM »
Wow. Save $. Don't buy TTI, buy a set of cheap tubes and a hammer.
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Re: Making dents in headers
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2016 - 04:17:57 PM »
Wow. Save $. Don't buy TTI, buy a set of cheap tubes and a hammer.


I got ceramic coated TTI's and a big hammer!  :grinno:
And I'm serious, I wish I wasn't but....
Gotta modify them for a NAG1 with a passenger side starter. I suspect I have to cut the tubes and reroute them.

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Re: Making dents in headers
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2016 - 08:41:42 PM »
Maybe the dents make a smaller diameter which raises the velocity which increases scavenging which allows more fuel charge in.
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Re: Making dents in headers
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2016 - 08:39:43 AM »
Ok so when you have ceramic coated hearers what's the best way to dimple them without cracking the coating? 

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Re: Making dents in headers
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2016 - 12:30:22 PM »
Ok so when you have ceramic coated hearers what's the best way to dimple them without cracking the coating?


Good question, the coating will probably be destroyed on mine when I get started, I'll probably have to both cut, reroute and dent them to fit.

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Re: Making dents in headers
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2016 - 05:11:20 AM »
You can dimple ceramic coated headers by heating them up and gently massaging them. However don't hit them with ball peen directly, use another hammer to swing and rest the ball peen against the work. Also ceramic coat doesn't tolerate to much movement so if its a big ding you need to make...

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Re: Making dents in headers
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2016 - 09:21:32 AM »
I was too surprised by the results, anyway can't I get some cheap headers, do the dents and then ceramic coat them ?

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Re: Making dents in headers
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2016 - 07:42:50 PM »
Cheap headers normally have thin flanges which tend to leak. I once bought cheap headers then had them coated after a while I got sick of leaks and replacing gaskets.  I bought a good header with thick flanges and never regretted it .
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Re: Making dents in headers
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2016 - 08:07:23 PM »
Thick flanges help, but the size of the weld bead around the port, and the relative flatness off the grinding of all these welds around the ports are factors as well.

If you are willing to weld and grind, you can make a cheap set seal up pretty good.

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Re: Making dents in headers
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2016 - 09:00:42 PM »
I was surprised they left the headers on the engine when they pounded them. I was picturing all kinds of cracks in the head from the sudden movement.   I cracked a head once when one of my headers hung up on the trailer unloading the car.

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Re: Making dents in headers
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2016 - 10:34:55 AM »
I thought that too... Seems that American V-8s  are robust enough...