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Offline cudabob496

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Whats your opinion?
« on: January 16, 2016 - 08:21:25 PM »
I think we are going to see muscle car prices start to move lower for quite a while,
because all of the millions of baby boomers that grew up with these cars, are gonna
be heading for the old folks home.  Same thing happened with the Model A.
Of course, I hope I'm wrong.
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Re: Whats your opinion?
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2016 - 10:18:23 PM »
I have heard this same opinion from another older gentleman that I was speaking with.... I'm not too sure. The reasoning makes sense but I just can't see the prices of sought after cars dropping. Maybe in another 15-20 years?   :dunno:

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Re: Whats your opinion?
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2016 - 11:21:35 PM »
I agree more available cars & less interested buyers

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Re: Whats your opinion?
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2016 - 12:05:42 AM »
Well since this thread is titled "your opinion" I will share mine. I think the very rare and collectable cars will stay high for some time as they used as investments and "jewely" to a degree. Below these, I "think"prices will dip, however I think restomods with modern or more modern drive trains and suspensions will increase to a point as the younger generation will appreciate them more than the conventional old school cars.
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Re: Whats your opinion?
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2016 - 12:39:02 AM »
the younger generations may have to save the hobby, to a certain extent.  And that depends
on the US economy as well.
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Re: Whats your opinion?
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2016 - 12:40:39 AM »
I remember a time when 59 Caddies were bringing 150K..... that ship sailed long ago.  :sadwavey:  Times change things go in / out of fashion.  :grinyes:
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Re: Whats your opinion?
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2016 - 09:37:30 AM »
I agree to a point, but the biggest differences between some of those other generation of classics is that they are *not* muscle cars and *not* highly represented across media (print, TV, movies, commercials, etc) on a consistent basis that keeps interest up.
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Re: Whats your opinion?
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2016 - 11:39:59 AM »
I think we still have another 15-20 yrs. I have seen it locally with cars of the 40's and 50's dropping off but those weren't muscle cars either. Having said that look at all the high end cars of the early 1900's that are still bringing huge money. True muscle should always be worth good money but saying that I foresee that applying to the high end cars.  Will hopefully be around to see it!   :bigsmile:
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Re: Whats your opinion?
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2016 - 02:11:34 PM »
I agree to a point, but the biggest differences between some of those other generation of classics is that they are *not* muscle cars and *not* highly represented across media (print, TV, movies, commercials, etc) on a consistent basis that keeps interest up.

Exactly that. Muscle Cars have a style that is generally accepted and liked by all Generations. I believe there will be a small decline. But my biggest concern is that the money needed to enter the hobby will never be available for younger generations (20s-30s) so we'll never see the golden age of 70s-80s where young people lived with the cars.

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Re: Whats your opinion?
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2016 - 02:41:25 PM »
I will differ with you on your reasoning. First off I am a member of the early baby boomers ( born in 47 ). If you watch the auctions on TV you will see the age of the folks that are bidding and buying are in the baby boom generation. I consider the muscle car buyers to be the early boomers, not the later boomers. The baby boom era went from 1946 to 1964. Those born in the later boomer years weren't playing with cars until after the Good Ole Days of big engines and four speeds were over. They think a muscle car is a 1974 Mustang II !!! The guys I talk to are early boomers who either couldn't afford the muscle they wanted back in the day or had one, then sold it to buy baby formula and diapers and now regret it and want one again to help relive the thrill. There is another 8 to 10 years, in my opinion, of increasing prices on all muscle cars ( especially the rare examples ) before those of us in the early boom years can't push the clutch in anymore or remember what gear we were in. I plan on keeping my 72 Cuda ( I am the original owner ) for another few years then sell it to keep the retirement bank account up.

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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2016 - 09:41:50 PM »
Heard an interesting comment the other day about men in their 50's buying a hot car must be having a midlife crisis lol.
Let's face it, usually later in life you have room to play with some of the things you had to give up in your youth or did without getting your life started.  With this line of thought there is still a lot of up and coming car guys waiting for a chance. 
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Re: Whats your opinion?
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2016 - 12:10:25 AM »
Well since this thread is titled "your opinion" I will share mine. I think the very rare and collectable cars will stay high for some time as they used as investments and "jewely" to a degree. Below these, I "think"prices will dip, however I think restomods with modern or more modern drive trains and suspensions will increase to a point as the younger generation will appreciate them more than the conventional old school cars.

I think the only real future of our Muscle cars is the "restomods" with MODERN HEMI motors, Transmissions and definitely Suspensions that keep up with todays demanding fuel economy and traffic while having yesteryear style.  All other Muscle cars with the original drivetrains and suspensions will fare poorly as paperweights!
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Re: Whats your opinion?
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2016 - 12:23:26 AM »
I don't know.....spent the last two hours with a 26 year old who has dropped over 60 grand on his 70 Roadrunner. All his close friends have classic cars - all Mopars. Yes, they have good jobs and they eat and breath Mopar. Also, another guy I sold my old motor to....he's 32 and building a 1960 Dodge fleet side with a Max wedge theme 440. I think these cars will live forever. They ain't making anymore of them. Lots of young people are into muscle cars guys!!

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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2016 - 12:59:53 AM »
I think we still have another 15-20 yrs. I have seen it locally with cars of the 40's and 50's dropping off but those weren't muscle cars either. Having said that look at all the high end cars of the early 1900's that are still bringing huge money. True muscle should always be worth good money but saying that I foresee that applying to the high end cars.  Will hopefully be around to see it!   :bigsmile:

yep, fast and powerful will always be popular.
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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2016 - 01:01:47 AM »
I will differ with you on your reasoning. First off I am a member of the early baby boomers ( born in 47 ). If you watch the auctions on TV you will see the age of the folks that are bidding and buying are in the baby boom generation. I consider the muscle car buyers to be the early boomers, not the later boomers. The baby boom era went from 1946 to 1964. Those born in the later boomer years weren't playing with cars until after the Good Ole Days of big engines and four speeds were over. They think a muscle car is a 1974 Mustang II !!! The guys I talk to are early boomers who either couldn't afford the muscle they wanted back in the day or had one, then sold it to buy baby formula and diapers and now regret it and want one again to help relive the thrill. There is another 8 to 10 years, in my opinion, of increasing prices on all muscle cars ( especially the rare examples ) before those of us in the early boom years can't push the clutch in anymore or remember what gear we were in. I plan on keeping my 72 Cuda ( I am the original owner ) for another few years then sell it to keep the retirement bank account up.

I don't know....a lot of grey hair at Barret-Jackson.  Guys with a lot of money who realize they can't take it with them.
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000