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Re: Corrosion
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2016 - 03:18:54 PM »
My rad is a cross flow and I welded a bung to act as a drain plug and use the anode as the drain plug.   :icon16:

Genius

wonder if it makes a diff where the zinc is placed? radiator or engine block.
Its all connected by water, but the block with the big ground strap may see more
current across it?
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Re: Corrosion
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2016 - 04:33:34 PM »
Bur an Aluminum radiator has more negative electrochemical potential so it's more reactive & likely needs more protection...
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Re: Corrosion
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2016 - 06:35:27 PM »
Genius

wonder if it makes a diff where the zinc is placed? radiator or engine block.
Its all connected by water, but the block with the big ground strap may see more
current across it?

Thanks, but it was your post/idea that prompted it.  :wave:
Brad
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Re: Corrosion
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2016 - 06:43:13 PM »
Thanks, but it was your post/idea that prompted it.  :wave:

even a broken clock is right twice a day
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1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

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Re: Corrosion
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2016 - 07:51:04 PM »
Bur an Aluminum radiator has more negative electrochemical potential so it's more reactive & likely needs more protection...

I'm thinking the engine may need more, since it has 60 lbs of aluminum heads on it
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1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000

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Re: Corrosion
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2016 - 08:00:44 PM »
Install zinc anodes into the engine both engine and radiator. Remove the periodically, check them and replace as necessary.
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Re: Corrosion
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2016 - 01:32:56 AM »
Install zinc anodes into the engine both engine and radiator. Remove the periodically, check them and replace as necessary.

Ya, apparently, when they crud-up/scale-up, the pure zinc is restricted from
doing the best job possible.  Think I'll just put in a brand new one.

Guess I'll go with Model E-0 at boatzincs.com.
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1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000

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Re: Corrosion
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2016 - 02:47:57 AM »
So then why is it current new cars with aluminum radiators aren't having this problem?
Because the radiator is isolated from ground or positive?
Mike, Fremont, CA.


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Re: Corrosion
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2016 - 04:15:46 AM »

interesting article.  Maybe  I should use distilled water when mixing anti-freeze

Also, gives guidance to measure electrolosis potential of your coolant.


http://www.aa1car.com/library/cooling_system_electrolysis_corrosion.htm
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000

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Re: Corrosion
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2016 - 01:52:01 PM »
seems to be a point of contention.

Purple Ice and some others say not to use distilled or de-ionized water as it will draw replacement ions out of the surrounding passages and increase corrosion.

Others say to use it.

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« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2016 - 01:58:01 PM »
seems to be a point of contention.

Purple Ice and some others say not to use distilled or de-ionized water as it will draw replacement ions out of the surrounding passages and increase corrosion.

Others say to use it.

Yep, conflicting guidance out there
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000

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Re: Corrosion
« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2016 - 06:14:44 PM »
if dont' have a bung, can you just drop a zinc anode in bottom or radiator,
assuming away from pump suction?
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000

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Re: Corrosion
« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2016 - 08:23:22 AM »
if dont' have a bung, can you just drop a zinc anode in bottom or radiator,
assuming away from pump suction?

The zinc anode must be connected electrically to the base metal to work (we are making a battery).
1973 Challenger 440 6 pack auto 3.91 rear
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1973 Challenger 318 2bbl auto 2.73 rear 22.5 mpg RIP
1970 Challenger TA 340 4bbl auto-Sold and sad
1999 Dodge Ram 3500 dually 5.9 Cummins Fleece tuned VGT-sold
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Re: Corrosion
« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2016 - 08:18:10 PM »
The zinc anode must be connected electrically to the base metal to work (we are making a battery).

Ya, I assumed without the brass fitting, the zinc rod would lay on the bottom, and have decent contact?
I may throw one in there, and fish it out in a year to see how it looks. But will also install the regular
one with the brass fitting in my water pump housing.
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000

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Re: Corrosion
« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2016 - 08:24:46 PM »
these are 14 psi and have a magnesium anode, which will wear quicker I think.
I need a 16 psi with zinc anode


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72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000