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Wheel Seal Orientation - Front Axle
« on: May 04, 2016 - 08:46:43 PM »
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I had a noise in the front of my car.  Thinking it was probably a bad wheel bearing I popped the calipers off, took off the rotors, removed bearings, seals, and races. Went to the local parts stores and got the parts I needed.

I'm embarrassed to say (now) I can't remember how the seals go in.  The seals I got are Timken's and have the rubber "boot" on one side.

Does that boot go in the hub "toward" the bearing, or does it stick out and go into the recess on the spindle?

The car is a 73 Cuda 340.

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Re: Wheel Seal Orientation - Front Axle
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2016 - 09:07:50 PM »
side with spring goes into disk toward the bearing  ....clear as mud?
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Re: Wheel Seal Orientation - Front Axle
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2016 - 09:09:36 PM »
Usually the spring side goes towards the grease, but i'm not sure by your description. Some Mopar seals are hydro-dynamic and have in integral dust seal. Can you post a pic or a part number?
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Re: Wheel Seal Orientation - Front Axle
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2016 - 09:40:49 PM »
The "boot" faces out when looking at the back of the rotor....   Before tapping it in, make sure it fits the seal surface on the spindle...
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Re: Wheel Seal Orientation - Front Axle
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2016 - 10:13:26 PM »
Timken 5121 
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Re: Wheel Seal Orientation - Front Axle
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2016 - 10:40:15 PM »
Timken 5121 


Quite sure mine didn't have a large protrusion like that...doesn't mean it's wrong just a different style 
 From the few pics I've seen of that style it seems the protrusion of rubber (pic. top) would go toward the axle
 


mine looked more like these , had the spring on the inside 

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Re: Wheel Seal Orientation - Front Axle
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2016 - 10:52:32 PM »
Let your common sense take over. There's no way to drive that seal in on the lip side- so, put it in the rotor with the  smooth, steel back showing up and drive it in, on said back. Easy, eh?  :cheers:

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Re: Wheel Seal Orientation - Front Axle
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2016 - 11:00:28 PM »
Let your common sense take over. There's no way to drive that seal in on the lip side- so, put it in the rotor with the  smooth, steel back showing up and drive it in, on said back. Easy, eh?  :cheers:

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Re: Wheel Seal Orientation - Front Axle
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2016 - 11:36:12 PM »
Let your common sense take over. There's no way to drive that seal in on the lip side- so, put it in the rotor with the  smooth, steel back showing up and drive it in, on said back. Easy, eh?  :cheers:

EXCEPT YOUR WRONG...  70-72 have a flat metal face, 73-74 have the seal shown above which has a normal seal backside and a protruding lip on the outside...
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Re: Wheel Seal Orientation - Front Axle
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2016 - 11:47:41 PM »
OK, sure. It's too late to argue, so drive it in on the lip. Good luck

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Re: Wheel Seal Orientation - Front Axle
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2016 - 12:24:27 AM »
The way to do it is to tap the metal flange outside the protruding lip.... Personally I use a an old bearing race as a driver...  If you think I'm wrong go get a Timken 5121 & have a look at it, thy aren't like most seals... Hell I worked for a bearing company, I think I might know what I'm talking about...
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Re: Wheel Seal Orientation - Front Axle
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2016 - 06:26:37 AM »
The dust boot (protruding lip) goes outward, and rides on the larger diameter of the spindle base. They are a bit of a pain to install, but I used a large socket to press mine in...
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Re: Wheel Seal Orientation - Front Axle
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2016 - 07:49:17 AM »
Is the 14708 seal the right one for a 74 Challenger? Napa gave me 19500.  :clueless:
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Re: Wheel Seal Orientation - Front Axle
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2016 - 08:27:43 AM »
The dust boot (protruding lip) goes outward, and rides on the larger diameter of the spindle base. They are a bit of a pain to install, but I used a large socket to press mine in...

 :iagree: That rubber protrusion is the dust boot. It rides on the spindle to help seal out dirt from the bearings. Faces outwards, it was an improved design to the earlier type seal, and a pain to install. You will need to find a driver that doesn't crush the dust seal. A thinwall socket or a piece of pipe ground out with a Dremel etc.
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