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Offline rt green

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block boil
« on: May 10, 2016 - 04:51:23 PM »
just got quoted 430 bucks for a block boil and cam bearings installed.   i do not have the bearings.




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Re: block boil
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2016 - 05:50:20 PM »
If you gave him a bare block, Id say thats a little high IMHO

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Re: block boil
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2016 - 05:55:58 PM »
If you gave him a bare block, Id say thats a little high IMHO

I think thats a grab your ankles price... :2cents:
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Re: block boil
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2016 - 07:30:12 PM »
That is about 200% too much
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Re: block boil
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2016 - 07:55:06 PM »
just got quoted 430 bucks for a block boil and cam bearings installed.   i do not have the bearings.

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Re: block boil
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2016 - 07:57:21 PM »
          Just for fun call and ask the price for a SBC Chevy motor.   :dunno:   Could be interesting. 

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Re: block boil
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2016 - 08:00:19 PM »
FYI I just paid  $60 (Canadian no less) to have a 400B block baked then shot peened. Looks like new.  I stripped it down.
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Re: block boil
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2016 - 08:07:02 PM »
that price is high even for here.
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Offline rt green

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Re: block boil
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2016 - 09:11:25 PM »
he wanted to  flux it for cracks, said mopars  are finicky when it comes to fitting cam bearings. said he had to hand fit them. sounds like he didnt want to do it if you ask me. this was just a phone quote.our shop brings a lot of production stuff there. i have another place i can take it to. i just want it cleaned for now and install the bearings. i should just do it myself. yeh, didnt want it chromed.
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Re: block boil
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2016 - 09:20:54 PM »
said mopars  are finicky when it comes to fitting cam bearings.

This is sometimes true. The cam bearing bores can be randomly under sized and require line boring the block cam bearing bores to size correctly. But not always though. The cam bearing bore need to be measured to see if this is required first. :2cents: 
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Re: block boil
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2016 - 12:09:40 AM »
said mopars  are finicky when it comes to fitting cam bearings.

This is sometimes true. The cam bearing bores can be randomly under sized and require line boring the block cam bearing bores to size correctly. But not always though. The cam bearing bore need to be measured to see if this is required first. :2cents:

Normally the bearings will drive in fine but have tight spots because the bearing collapses slightly... Most shops that do allot of Mopars don't try to correct the block, just resize the bearings after installing them....  The easy way to do that is to slightly modify the old cam core & use it as a sizing tool.... The modification consists of using a die grinder with a cut off wheel to cut diagonally across each bearing surface on the cam....  The modified cam is slid into the cam tunnel & turned as it is pushed in the last little bit....  Pull it back out, clean the cutting grooves & reinstall & turn some more... It shaves the high spots off the bearings, doesn't take much time & does a good job...
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Re: block boil
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2016 - 01:21:22 PM »
Agree it sounds like he did not want the work. Prefers the Chevy production line of builds...

Quote should be standard (much lower) price with a disclaimer noting up charges if additional work is required.
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Re: block boil
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2016 - 07:22:53 AM »
anyone clean a block at home? if so, what did you use?

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Re: block boil
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2016 - 12:52:35 PM »
You don't have the equipment to properly clean out a block. $430 is robbery, and I always get told I'm high on machine costs...lol.
I prefer to have them shot blasted. It gets way into the cooling jackets. We don't have "good" hot tanks in CT anymore. The cleaning agents are really weak now and I find a lot of scale and crap left behind using that method. Protect the lifter bores and have it airless shotted.

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Re: block boil
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2016 - 08:09:25 PM »
You don't have the equipment to properly clean out a block. $430 is robbery, and I always get told I'm high on machine costs...lol.
I prefer to have them shot blasted. It gets way into the cooling jackets. We don't have "good" hot tanks in CT anymore. The cleaning agents are really weak now and I find a lot of scale and crap left behind using that method. Protect the lifter bores and have it airless shotted.

 :iagree: They used to use heated caustic soda solution in a (hot) tank. Worked great but the waste water was a major hazmat cost so most shops discontinued this practice. Maybe someone in your area still uses this method? The new enviro-friendly solution doesn't work very well as mentioned. 
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