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Offline Fish Tale

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Open element air cleaner assembly recommendations
« on: May 30, 2016 - 10:38:52 AM »
Looking for recommendations for an open element air cleaner assembly (for example, K & N) that works well and has no fitment issues.  Pictures, links, or part numbers would be helpful.  This would be for my stock 71 383 to help it breathe a little better.  Obviously, I would put back the stock air cleaner for shows. etc. 
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Offline cudabob496

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Re: Open element air cleaner assembly recommendations
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2016 - 01:37:36 PM »
go at least 14" by 3"
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Re: Open element air cleaner assembly recommendations
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2016 - 03:11:32 PM »
Okay, what should the base be set at?  Not dropped but level with the carb?
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Re: Open element air cleaner assembly recommendations
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2016 - 08:36:47 AM »
Okay, what should the base be set at?  Not dropped but level with the carb?

For a 14x3 I believe you will need a drop base, even with your bulge hood. 

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Re: Open element air cleaner assembly recommendations
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2016 - 10:53:02 AM »
what carb?
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Re: Open element air cleaner assembly recommendations
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2016 - 11:15:41 AM »
On my 340. Plenty of CFM and Looks Great!
Had to shorten it a little to get clearance from the hood. Should fit easy with a 383 since they are shorter than a 340 or 440.
Got it from Dave at Roseville. it is the 69 440 4bbl Air Grabber style with a K&N filter.

http://www.rosevillemoparts.com/product_info.php/p/air-grabber-440-kit-69-ram-charger-air-cleaner-lid-and-base-w-44/products_id/5357?SID

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Re: Open element air cleaner assembly recommendations
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2016 - 02:54:59 PM »
I have an extra K&N setup,  when home later will look up the model number, can have for shipping cost if you want, brand new, I used a different model K&N.

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Re: Open element air cleaner assembly recommendations
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2016 - 03:52:11 PM »
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Re: Open element air cleaner assembly recommendations
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2016 - 08:41:22 PM »
I have an extra K&N setup,  when home later will look up the model number, can have for shipping cost if you want, brand new, I used a different model K&N.

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73440 - please let me know the model number.  Was looking at getting a black one but may consider yours.  Let me know.  Thanks.
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Re: Open element air cleaner assembly recommendations
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2016 - 09:51:54 PM »
On my 340. Plenty of CFM and Looks Great!
Had to shorten it a little to get clearance from the hood. Should fit easy with a 383 since they are shorter than a 340 or 440.
Got it from Dave at Roseville. it is the 69 440 4bbl Air Grabber style with a K&N filter.

http://www.rosevillemoparts.com/product_info.php/p/air-grabber-440-kit-69-ram-charger-air-cleaner-lid-and-base-w-44/products_id/5357?SID




what are the odds that set up fits under the hood of a 440 /rpm manifold?

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Re: Open element air cleaner assembly recommendations
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2016 - 10:16:07 PM »
what are the odds that set up fits under the hood of a 440 /rpm manifold?
Hard to say.
I could have returned this one because it was too tall but I cut it down to make it work...
I removed about 7/8" of the carb throat. Rotozip, die grinder, sander... 3-4 hours all in.


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Re: Open element air cleaner assembly recommendations
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2016 - 10:20:54 PM »
K & N model 66-3050.  http://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=66-3050

http://s1302.photobucket.com/user/73440/slideshow/K%20and%20N%20filter

dome top 14x3 tried to show all the other measurements

hardware still in unopened bag

I ended up using one with less of a drop on the 440.
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Re: Open element air cleaner assembly recommendations
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2016 - 01:07:01 AM »
K & N model 66-3050.  http://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=66-3050

http://s1302.photobucket.com/user/73440/slideshow/K%20and%20N%20filter

dome top 14x3 tried to show all the other measurements

hardware still in unopened bag

I ended up using one with less of a drop on the 440.


Thanks 73440.  I will need to check to see if those measurements will clear on my setup.
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Re: Open element air cleaner assembly recommendations
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2016 - 07:53:20 PM »
Hard to say.
I could have returned this one because it was too tall but I cut it down to make it work...
I removed about 7/8" of the carb throat. Rotozip, die grinder, sander... 3-4 hours all in.

pics?

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Re: Open element air cleaner assembly recommendations
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2016 - 09:56:01 PM »
pics?

The raw edge after cutting is a larger diameter hole because of the taper.
I originally thought I would need to weld in the piece I cut off to get it to seal to the carb but instead...
I used a section of black door edge guard on the cut edge to make up the difference.
Fits nice and should seal fine. I kept the original carb to air cleaner gasket in place.

I scribed a line.
Marked the line with tape so I could see it better.
I cut along the line with a rotozip and then used a belt sander to get it flat and level and remove the little jaggies from my less than perfect cut... I expected that so I cut a little less than the final amount I wanted to remove.
You may need to to take some material out of the center bar. I had to to clearance the air horns and the butterfly on my QuickFuel carb.

Final test fit with some plumbers putty. 7/8" at the center, more than an inch everywhere else.












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