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    Offline brasil

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    Moog offset bushings....
    « on: June 27, 2016 - 11:02:15 AM »
    ..last week I was " overhaulin "  my front end... all balljoints, bushings, and tie rods...idler Arm and Steeringbox..
    everything...  I also welded in those LCA reinforment plates..

    so when finished I went to a tire shop...to do the alignment.. because of using the normal UCA bushings we only could get 1.5 deg of positive caster..which is not realy much... 
    So I bought 2 sets of   MOOG OFFSET BUSHINGS   to get more caster...but I am wondering if I only need to change the rear bushing... to get more caster... If I install the front bushing also...  wouldn´t I get issues with the camber ?  I would like to see a camber in the 0.10 to 0.20 negative range...   to save the tire profil...( inwards )

    My idea is to install the MOOG Bushings showing outwards with the offset .. to get more caster  and hopefully stayin with a good camber....

    Greetings Juergen
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    Offline dodj

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    Re: Moog offset bushings....
    « Reply #1 on: June 27, 2016 - 11:16:37 AM »
    Install them both. You will be able to get the needed caster/camber.
    « Last Edit: June 27, 2016 - 02:09:21 PM by dodj »
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    Re: Moog offset bushings....
    « Reply #2 on: June 27, 2016 - 11:36:02 AM »
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    Offline brasil

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    Re: Moog offset bushings....
    « Reply #3 on: June 27, 2016 - 12:14:32 PM »
    Thank you guys !

    so I will install all four bushings...  hope that I don´t crash the upper ball joints ..when I seperate them from the wheel spindle....

    Greetings Juergen
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    Offline Mpdlawdog

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    Re: Moog offset bushings....
    « Reply #4 on: June 27, 2016 - 01:12:33 PM »
     :popcorn:....one of the next projects....
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    Offline brasil

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    Re: Moog offset bushings....
    « Reply #5 on: June 27, 2016 - 05:30:26 PM »
    .....  I think...I will try to change the bushings....with the UCA still bolted on the spindle...  should work :working:

    Will be a 1-2 hours job.... :bigsmile:

    Greetings Juergen
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    Re: Moog offset bushings....
    « Reply #6 on: June 27, 2016 - 06:53:23 PM »
    Quote from: brasil on June 27, 2016 - 05:30:26 PM
    .....  I think...I will try to change the bushings....with the UCA still bolted on the spindle...  should work :working:

    Will be a 1-2 hours job.... :bigsmile:

    Greetings Juergen


    I do not believe it will be possible to remove the old bushings and press in the new ones with the UCA still on.  I had to completely remove them from the car to replace the bushings.
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    Offline brasil

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    Re: Moog offset bushings....
    « Reply #7 on: June 28, 2016 - 04:53:53 AM »
    I will take some pics....  perhaps...  it works...we will see...


    Greetings Juergen
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    Offline HP2

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    Re: Moog offset bushings....
    « Reply #8 on: June 28, 2016 - 10:03:48 AM »
    It is possible with a length of tube slightly larger  and longer than the bushings, a piece of threaded rod longer than the bushings, a few washers and nuts, a can of WD40,  a big azz wrench, and a big ole can of grunt.

    It isn't the easiest way to do it, but if they have been replaced previously, it shouldn't be impossible.
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    Offline brasil

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    Re: Moog offset bushings....
    « Reply #9 on: June 28, 2016 - 03:26:27 PM »
     :working:

    it is possible...and also a very fast job.. needed  aprox. 45 minutes...for each side   

    Greeting Juergen
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    Offline brasil

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    Re: Moog offset bushings....
    « Reply #10 on: June 28, 2016 - 03:39:20 PM »
    made some pics....

    First I made a PULLER / PRESS in Tool... ( HOMEMADE...  used a piece of 2 " exhaust Tube...and a BIG shim )

    then I put the car on the lift.... used a jack to "depress the UCA a little...removed the two Bolts that hold the UCA...
    AND IMPORTANT ... I tied up the spindle to to shock....  so the spindle doesn´t hang "into " the brakehose...

    The rest was easy...also... used the PULLER  to remove the OEM bushing...   pressed in the new one..   aso...











    Greetings Juergen
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    Re: Moog offset bushings....
    « Reply #11 on: June 28, 2016 - 06:43:32 PM »
    Nice!  I just banged the crap out of it on a vise.  :horse:
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    Offline 73_Cuda_4_Me

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    Re: Moog offset bushings....
    « Reply #12 on: June 28, 2016 - 06:57:01 PM »
    Awesome sauce, Juergen!
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    Re: Moog offset bushings....
    « Reply #13 on: June 29, 2016 - 10:12:23 AM »
    I will be doing this before long also but in the meantime I thought I would pass along a suggestion.

    I have replaced many oem bushings in A-arms over the years and some were not that much trouble then some were a PITA. I was told by someone to use an air chisel to remove the old bushing. I have done this several times now and it has always worked great.

    Takes only a few seconds to shoot the old bushing and sleeve across the shop floor without doing any damage to the A-Arm hole.

    Cheers!
    Mickm
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    Re: Moog offset bushings....
    « Reply #14 on: June 29, 2016 - 10:44:17 AM »
    ...the only thing is...that you can´t use the air chissle...while the UCA is still bolted to the spindle.. 
    I didn´t remove the spindle..because there is always the posibility to ruin the upperballjoint... 
    And in my case.. the balljoints are 10 days old...

    About the bushings...  with a good puller they come off easy.. 

    Greetings Juergen
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