4 Speed Linkage Setup

[Chryco Psycho]

It would seem to be the right parts unless they were mispackaged

[HP_Cuda]

For giggles back the end stop bolts out on the shifter mechanism - the one on the front and one at the rear and let us know what happens.

With your setup you shouldn't be having mechanism or rod problems as they are new.

Maybe take a pic of the rod setup underneath the cuda.

[Chryco Psycho]

Yes if you have stop bolts that limit travel that would definatly do it

[dave73chally]

Stop bolts are fully removed....

Thinking about this a little more. Do the operating levers on the trans lock into place when in gear or is there resistance to pop back into neutral? I ask because my reverse lever when pulled back into reverse clicks and will stay in reverse until I push it out. My 1-2 and 3-4 levers will push forward and back but never click into place, there is constant resistance to go back into neutral. I disconnected the rods from the mechanism and pushed and pulled the operating levers with the rod only attached and it wouldn't stay in gear.

[dave73chally]

And to add some more detail...

Some of this came to light when I started my engine for the first time. Engine cranked in neutral no problem, was running for about a half hour. Shut off, turned back on no problem. Ran for about 10 mins this time then it suddenly jerked forward an inch or so. I thought it rocked off the jackstand. Turned it off, started back up and it did it again. Now the car will start but as soon as I depress the clutch in neutral, it stalls out. It's odd it was running fine for awhile before any of these symptoms, did something heat up and break?

And to further clarify, my shift linkage/shifting into gear issue always existed. Both before and after starting the engine for the first time.

[Chryco Psycho]

The shift levers on the trans will snap onto place & stay there when in gear properly they should not be loaded back into neutral
 so the car is running & you push the clutch pedal so now the engine is uncoupled from the trans & it stalls ?? that is very wrong

[dave73chally]

The shift levers on the trans will snap onto place & stay there when in gear properly they should not be loaded back into neutral
 so the car is running & you push the clutch pedal so now the engine is uncoupled from the trans & it stalls ?? that is very wrong

I started the car with car in neutral, clutch pedal pushed in. Car started, then I released the clutch and it stalled. That in combination with it lurching forward makes me think it's somewhat engaged in a gear?

How do I go about diagnosing why the operating levers won't lock into place for 1-2 and 3-4?

[Chlngrcrzy]

Is this a rebuilt transmission? I rebuilt my 4 speed myself, and i am no rocket scientist. All the parts you need are readily available. A very simple system to understand, once you tear it down and put it back together. Take lots of pictures as you tear down, and the internet also offers some video and picture help. I did mess up and have to take it apart a couple of times. I had one of the synchs turned backwards. It would not shift into 2nd. Make sure you follow all the adjustment steps when lining up your shift rods and adjusting them.

[HP_Cuda]

I agree with Neil on this I believe the shifter rods are not placed correctly and hence they will pop out of 1-2 and 3-4. You should hear a click when it goes into say 1st. To get this idea take a shift rod off the shifter mechanism and grab the rod, say 1-2 rod. Move the rod forward until you hear it click into hear. This is the exact length it should be set when putting back together with your shifter mechanism.

When these rods are not positioned correct what you explain can happen very easily. You are basically almost into that gear but not all the way and then it can easily pop out.

Hope this helps,
B

[dave73chally]

I agree with Neil on this I believe the shifter rods are not placed correctly and hence they will pop out of 1-2 and 3-4. You should hear a click when it goes into say 1st. To get this idea take a shift rod off the shifter mechanism and grab the rod, say 1-2 rod. Move the rod forward until you hear it click into hear. This is the exact length it should be set when putting back together with your shifter mechanism.

When these rods are not positioned correct what you explain can happen very easily. You are basically almost into that gear but not all the way and then it can easily pop out.

Hope this helps,
B

I did the whole disconnect from the mechanism and push/pull the rod itself and couldn't get anything to go in. I'll look again but I was afraid to jam it too hard

[HP_Cuda]

You will need to push hard enough to get it to pop into gear.

Shouldn't be too hard.

[dave73chally]

So since this is a brand new installed trans and this condition has always existed, had someone tell me that it may free up when it's running and I then try to shift it into gear? That the slider going into the syncro may not be lined up all the way right now and when it's running and everything is turning it may line up. Sound like a possibility?

[HP_Cuda]

How about another crazy question - you put fluid in the A833 yet?

You could pull the cover plate and see if the forks are aligned properly but if it came from Brewers I highly doubt you would need to do this.

[dave73chally]

How about another crazy question - you put fluid in the A833 yet?

You could pull the cover plate and see if the forks are aligned properly but if it came from Brewers I highly doubt you would need to do this.

Not yet, should I? Will it help? I thought it'd create more drag

[Chryco Psycho]

Huh you are running this beast with no fluid