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Offline jhaag

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Re: Something weird going on
« Reply #90 on: November 10, 2016 - 03:25:05 PM »
No. Your issue is 1 of 2 things, vacuum leak, or throttle blades open too far. Too much air is getting into the motor. completely close both front and rear throttle blades. car should not idle at all, unless you have a vacuum leak, or holes drilled in your throttle blades.
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Re: Something weird going on
« Reply #91 on: November 10, 2016 - 09:04:44 PM »
No. Your issue is 1 of 2 things, vacuum leak, or throttle blades open too far. Too much air is getting into the motor. completely close both front and rear throttle blades. car should not idle at all, unless you have a vacuum leak, or holes drilled in your throttle blades.

ya, had the holes for the last 4 yrs. OK, intake with new gaskets going in!
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Re: Something weird going on
« Reply #92 on: November 10, 2016 - 09:16:13 PM »
No. Your issue is 1 of 2 things, vacuum leak, or throttle blades open too far. Too much air is getting into the motor. completely close both front and rear throttle blades. car should not idle at all, unless you have a vacuum leak, or holes drilled in your throttle blades.

 :iagree: I think you have a vacuum leak Bob. Clogged idle air bleeds will make for a rich idle condition, not one of your symptoms. You appear to be lean at idle IMO. Plug all the vacuum lines to PCV, power brake booster etc to test off-engine components. IF there is no change, the intake manifold may have a leak. A smoke machine can be used to test. It is simple to make one, check youtube. I hope it's an easy fix.
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Re: Something weird going on
« Reply #93 on: November 10, 2016 - 10:33:26 PM »
ya, no power brakes
pcv line has been off before, and just high idles aroud 2000 rpm
this thing will not run below 1000 rpm. sits there and gags and chokes
at around 200 rpm.  Weird.
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000

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Re: Something weird going on
« Reply #94 on: November 11, 2016 - 08:20:15 PM »
Consider this smoke machine, it really works! It's easy to make or you can buy one from the address listed (kustomsmoke@yahoo.com):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnU-SY6egr4
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1973 Challenger 440 6 pack auto 3.91 rear
2012 Dodge Ram 3500 dually 6.7 Cummins Fleece EFI Live
1973 Challenger 318 2bbl auto 2.73 rear 22.5 mpg RIP
1970 Challenger TA 340 4bbl auto-Sold and sad
1999 Dodge Ram 3500 dually 5.9 Cummins Fleece tuned VGT-sold
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Re: Something weird going on
« Reply #95 on: November 11, 2016 - 09:13:15 PM »
thanks! will keep in mind!
still putting things back together.
Port matching gaskets is taking a while.
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1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000

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Re: Something weird going on
« Reply #96 on: November 12, 2016 - 06:56:13 PM »

That guy is a big kooky but it does seem quite handy!!!
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Re: Something weird going on
« Reply #97 on: November 12, 2016 - 09:43:47 PM »
That guy is a big kooky but it does seem quite handy!!!

ya, he is different

been around a while
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000

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Re: Something weird going on
« Reply #98 on: November 13, 2016 - 10:20:20 AM »
Here is another example of using a smoke machine to find vacuum leaks etc. On a carbureted engine, i take off the carb and make a blockoff plate using the base gasket as a template (duct tape works too). Connect the smoke discharge hose to a vacuum fitting and look for leaks. You can loosen the rocker shafts to keep all the valves closed for pinpointing say intake ports leaking into the crankcase (OEM steel valley tray/ intake gasket), intake valve leakage, worn valve guides. The uses are endless. A word of caution:: If you use a smoke machine to diagnose an EVAP/fuel leak, use an inert gas like Argon or CO2 instead of compressed air, and test OUTSIDE to be safe.  :2thumbs:

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1973 Challenger 440 6 pack auto 3.91 rear
2012 Dodge Ram 3500 dually 6.7 Cummins Fleece EFI Live
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1999 Dodge Ram 3500 dually 5.9 Cummins Fleece tuned VGT-sold
1995 Kawasaki ZX1100E & still alive

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Re: Something weird going on
« Reply #99 on: November 13, 2016 - 12:39:10 PM »
That's smart and the dye leaves evidence to find it later. Haven't seen this before thanks!
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Re: Something weird going on
« Reply #100 on: November 13, 2016 - 04:37:37 PM »
nitrogen is the gas to use as per the owners manual.  ( snap-on ) 

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Re: Something weird going on
« Reply #101 on: November 13, 2016 - 05:42:38 PM »
ya, he is different

been around a while

I have watched some of his other videos and that's him allright.
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Re: Something weird going on
« Reply #102 on: November 13, 2016 - 06:24:34 PM »
I have watched some of his other videos and that's him allright.

he has some good advice, if you can get past the sometimes irritating showmanship.
72 Cuda, owned 25 years. 496, with ported Stage VI heads, .625 in solid roller, 254/258 at .050, 3500 stall, 3.91 rear. 850 Holley DP, Reverse manual valve body.

1999 Trans Am, LS1, heads, cam, headers, stall, etc! Love to surprise the rice rockets with this one. They seem so confident, then it's "what the heck just happened?"

2011 Kawasaki Z1000

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Re: Something weird going on
« Reply #103 on: November 14, 2016 - 12:19:07 AM »
nitrogen is the gas to use as per the owners manual.  ( snap-on )

Yes, Nitrogen is another INERT gas that can be used!
1973 Challenger 440 6 pack auto 3.91 rear
2012 Dodge Ram 3500 dually 6.7 Cummins Fleece EFI Live
1973 Challenger 318 2bbl auto 2.73 rear 22.5 mpg RIP
1970 Challenger TA 340 4bbl auto-Sold and sad
1999 Dodge Ram 3500 dually 5.9 Cummins Fleece tuned VGT-sold
1995 Kawasaki ZX1100E & still alive

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Re: Something weird going on
« Reply #104 on: November 14, 2016 - 12:47:20 AM »
That's smart and the dye leaves evidence to find it later. Haven't seen this before thanks!

I hope this info helps to pinpoint any leak issues, the UV trace dye is an added bonus too!
1973 Challenger 440 6 pack auto 3.91 rear
2012 Dodge Ram 3500 dually 6.7 Cummins Fleece EFI Live
1973 Challenger 318 2bbl auto 2.73 rear 22.5 mpg RIP
1970 Challenger TA 340 4bbl auto-Sold and sad
1999 Dodge Ram 3500 dually 5.9 Cummins Fleece tuned VGT-sold
1995 Kawasaki ZX1100E & still alive