1971 Challenger Convertible Crash

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Offline Topcat

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Re: 1971 Challenger Convertible Crash
« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2005 - 12:29:44 AM »
A SUV is just a big car that that can gather more garbage inside. Go look at the floorboards of a regular car and a SUV and you will  find they both have tons of junk underneath the seats.No we aren't all slobs , but when you have kids, you are gonna have junk. Thus, the need to have more garbage room. :ack:
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Re: 1971 Challenger Convertible Crash
« Reply #31 on: June 28, 2005 - 01:58:34 AM »
yeah, its amazing how much junk can appear on the floor of your car in such a short time

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Re: 1971 Challenger Convertible Crash
« Reply #32 on: June 28, 2005 - 02:50:22 AM »
Oh man, I  feel sorry for Mason.... Glad he's recovering. 

I feel sorry for the girl, too, since she obviously had too much car for her own good. 

But I really feel sorry for anyone driving a wobble-wagon (aka Sucker's Useless Vehicle) who doesn't live on a dirt road with a 40% grade, because they are wankers, posers, suckers, idiots.  Show me caked on mud on the fenders of that SUV from climbing the mountain you live on top of, or get an appropriate vehicle.  As for the big trucks, it freakin' better have a toolbox, trailer hitch, commercial plates, and some damn cargo in the back, or you're just as big a POSER as the super-sucker drivers.

"I feel safer" and "I need space" and "I like to sit up high" and "I need room for the kids" are NOT valid reasons for wobbler ownership.  Minivan, maybe...

I live in L.A., so you can imagine how many black SuckerMobiles I see out here.  Last year, on the 101, I saw a black Tahoe with "big rims" swerve to avoid a lane-changer who he didn't see in time, and INSTANTLY flop on its side and spin and slide down an embankment, and he was only going about 45mph! 

The "twenty-fours" he was rolling on didn't help his handling much, even though they cost half as much as the Generic Motors wobbler he crashed!  And, yes, you guessed it, he was on the phone and didn't see the car pulling into his lane (with a turn signal) until it was too late.  Idiot.
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Re: 1971 Challenger Convertible Crash
« Reply #33 on: June 28, 2005 - 03:02:32 AM »
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Re: 1971 Challenger Convertible Crash
« Reply #34 on: June 28, 2005 - 07:31:33 AM »
I see just as many men and women driving full size trucks around to the grocery store or commuting to work without anything in the bed.I use my suv for camping,hauling parts,trips with family and two dogs,ski trips and my wife likes the security of having four wheel drive in winter driving home from work at midnight in a blizzard.I was almost rearended by some moron in a BMW doing 100+ in the right lane this morning,it`s not the suv it`s the driver!!
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Re: 1971 Challenger Convertible Crash
« Reply #35 on: June 28, 2005 - 08:14:10 AM »
Oh man, I  feel sorry for Mason.... Glad he's recovering. 

I feel sorry for the girl, too, since she obviously had too much car for her own good. 

But I really feel sorry for anyone driving a wobble-wagon (aka Sucker's Useless Vehicle) who doesn't live on a dirt road with a 40% grade, because they are wankers, posers, suckers, idiots.  Show me caked on mud on the fenders of that SUV from climbing the mountain you live on top of, or get an appropriate vehicle.  As for the big trucks, it freakin' better have a toolbox, trailer hitch, commercial plates, and some d**n cargo in the back, or you're just as big a POSER as the super-sucker drivers.

"I feel safer" and "I need space" and "I like to sit up high" and "I need room for the kids" are NOT valid reasons for wobbler ownership.  Minivan, maybe...

I live in L.A., so you can imagine how many black SuckerMobiles I see out here.  Last year, on the 101, I saw a black Tahoe with "big rims" swerve to avoid a lane-changer who he didn't see in time, and INSTANTLY flop on its side and spin and slide down an embankment, and he was only going about 45mph! 

The "twenty-fours" he was rolling on didn't help his handling much, even though they cost half as much as the Generic Motors wobbler he crashed!  And, yes, you guessed it, he was on the phone and didn't see the car pulling into his lane (with a turn signal) until it was too late.  Idiot.



You feel better now that you got that off your chest??   I drive one of those big black SuckerMobiles.  Seats 7 people and . . . NO,  I'm not married and have no kids.  So you think I must fall into one of those catagories you mentioned . . . wankers, posers, suckers, idiots.   It's an interesting theory you have there but still just your opinion.    :gripe:
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Re: 1971 Challenger Convertible Crash
« Reply #36 on: June 28, 2005 - 08:28:39 AM »
It is the driver no question, but the auto makers have given this fales sence of security to the buying public that SUV's are safe. Yes, depending where you are hit by another car you maybe safer. The problem is people forget or are just plain stupid to realize what they are driving and flip the things on there sides. Down here in south Fl. it is a daily thing to here on the news a SUV roll over. I won't drive one anymore after I had a scare in a 2000 Caddy Escalade, and almost rolled it at 70mph when I was cut off. :eekbig:

I think the days of the Station Wagons may return. That Dodge Magnum SRT is one bad ass SUV.

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Re: 1971 Challenger Convertible Crash
« Reply #37 on: June 28, 2005 - 04:43:54 PM »
Obviuosly an SUV doesn`t handle like a sports car.Niether does a tractor trailer,a 70` RV,a full size 4wd truck with a backhoe on a trailer as I saw one flipped over on the side of the highway on the way home tonight.I guess anyone who drives one of those must be wankers, posers, suckers, idiots.  ::)
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Re: 1971 Challenger Convertible Crash
« Reply #38 on: June 28, 2005 - 07:56:45 PM »
For sure, SUVs are useful to some folks.

But for the MAJORITY of SUV owners in southern states, just how useful are they?  Groceries?  I can haul 10 bags in the back of my 300zxTT daily driver...WITH a subwoofer and t-tops!

People mover?  Do we have families of 8 people?  If so, minivans are more ideal, safer, lower center of gravity, yaddya yadda.

Haulin' bark?  TVs from Costco?  Lawn mower?  SUVs are pretty useless here.

Like I said, the MAJORITY of SUV owners in mild climate, FLAT regions of the US are posers are dangerous on the road and sucking up more gas and creating more pollution.

I guess $3.00/gallon will change a lot of these SUV owners tune.
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Re: 1971 Challenger Convertible Crash
« Reply #39 on: June 30, 2005 - 01:31:08 AM »
Yeah, okay, I vented a bit there...  Fair enough, guys, I should have said, "show me mud on the fenders OR SEVEN PASSENGERS".  If you gotta haul people back and forth to soccer practice, then, sure, get that Yukon.  But I almost NEVER get to see anyone in the back seat or third-row-seating of any of the SUV's I see, and, let's be real, Los Angeles doesn't have a whole lot of terrain that could possibly be too much for a Town+Country, Pacifica or Magnum.  The number of Hummers and H2's on the road out here with chrome brush guards around their headlights (!) and big shiny wheels with O-ring tires is truly astonishing.  Fashion accessories, most of them.

It would be hyprocritical of me to criticize SUV's gas mileage, since the Magnum isn't doing me any favors at the gas pump, and lord knows the 440's in my Cuda and Charger aren't helping matters any either!  It's more the danger to non-SUV drivers from inexperienced drivers that I worry about.  An out-of-control Yukon Denali could destroy my Magnum without noticing, not to mention what it would do to the Mini Cooper.

An arms race along the lines of "he who has the biggest battering RAM wins" sort is probably not the best thing for our combined safety.

I don't mean to cheese anyone off over my venomous SUV cracks, but big black Tahoes with one tattooed, sideways-baseball-cap-wearing driver talking on the cellphone while weaving thru freeway traffic with no turn signals have no place on the seven-lane-wide stretch of the 101 freeway at four in the afternoon, IMHO.  (Unless he'll be carrying a full load and driving more safely on the return trip.)

My AWD Magnum can get me and three friends and all our ski gear up to Big Bear and back in record time, and we breeze right past the roadblock requiring chains or 4WD, saying, "Hello officer" and pointing to the prominent AWD emblem on the fender, while 2WD SUV's are being turned around and sent back down to buy chains!  I did grow up and learn to drive on a dirt road in rural Vermont (and Mom still lives there), so I know a little about mud and snow, and Mom does have a Cummins-powered RAM with a snowplow behind the barn, but she sure doesn't use it for grocery getting, unless the town hasn't plowed our road that morning.

For quick errands, I use the wife's bright yellow Mini Cooper for high mileage and high visiblity.  (Yes, I have to admit that the family does own one non-mopar, so flame on me if you will!)  It's just fine for local runs to haul groceries, and the Jamaican flag decal that covers the entire roof is a great conversation starter!

But hey, we all drive what we want for reasons only we can understand, right?  For all I know, that 102-pound lady driving the 9-pass Lincoln Navigator is on her way to pick up her daughter's soccer team, but for some reason the only ones I see are Realtors on their way to an open house.......  I guess those little "open house" signs take up a lot of cargo room!

Anyway, drive what ya like, but I hope ya know how to drive it well, that's all.    :thumbs:

(Just had to add that I'm 42, have lived in VT, Boston, NYC, N'awlins, Philly, and L.A., and driven nearly 2,000,000 miles with ZERO accidents... so far!)
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