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Offline nsmall

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Rim ideas, size
« on: October 30, 2016 - 02:40:53 PM »
I have a 73 Cuda.  I'm painting it toxic orange this winter.  I already cut the hood scoops, now thinking of shaving the side markers and antenna.

One day I'll change the rims.  Kind of thinking this is a very mild rest-mod build.  I have stock 15 inch rally rims with 275 60s R15 on the back right now and 215 65 R15 up front right now.


I don't want to alter the suspension much as I've already spent a lot of money.  Any idea of an aftermarket wheel, with the size close to what I just described that won't require me to alter the suspension on a stock Cuda?  I want the big tire in the rear, little up front look.

Any recommendations to find a nice set of used rims? 

Thanks




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Re: Rim ideas, size
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2016 - 03:46:48 PM »
Use the link below.  LOTS of pics and comments about rim and tire combos.  Some of the older pics aren't there any more, but still plenty to check. 

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?action=profile;u=976

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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2016 - 09:33:04 PM »
Recommending wheels is kinda like telling you who your girlfriend should be.  There are so many choices and variations in taste, you just have to find some you like in the price range you want and go from there.

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Re: Rim ideas, size
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2016 - 02:30:04 PM »
Recommending wheels is kinda like telling you who your girlfriend should be.  There are so many choices and variations in taste, you just have to find some you like in the price range you want and go from there.

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Re: Rim ideas, size
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2016 - 02:42:01 PM »
I think 17-18" black rims of some kind would look great!

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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2016 - 03:24:21 PM »
Recommending wheels is kinda like telling you who your girlfriend should be.  There are so many choices and variations in taste, you just have to find some you like in the price range you want and go from there.

 :roflsmiley: :roflsmiley:
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price range you want!!!
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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2016 - 03:25:39 PM »
IMO. 17"rims. then buy the tire that gives you the diameter you want.
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Re: Rim ideas, size
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2016 - 04:12:24 PM »
Use the link below.  LOTS of pics and comments about rim and tire combos.  Some of the older pics aren't there any more, but still plenty to check. 

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?action=profile;u=976



Could you respost that link? This one goes to a profile.
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Restoration thread: http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=102525.0
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Re: Rim ideas, size
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2016 - 04:36:36 PM »

Could you respost that link? This one goes to a profile.


I think its the tire combo link - http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=19470.0

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Re: Rim ideas, size
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2016 - 11:44:52 PM »
I like how you guys politely tease me sometimes.  I am the person who started this post.   Maybe a better question for me to ask is whether or not I have to modify anything if I find a 17-inch rim for the front and back.   I don't know much about cars and I'm learning as I go but I do know I don't want to change a bunch of suspension pieces out to fit a 17 inch tire. 

I don't know why picking a rim is so hard but I like the look of a lot of your cars who have the 17 inch rim on the front and back.

I also like the old hot rod look of a big tire in the back and the small one up front but I don't even know what size of a rim you would run on the front to have that look.

Right now I have 15 inch Mopar Rally rims on the front and back and I have a 275 60 tire on the rear and a 215 65 on the front and I like that look, however since I'm going away from stock on mostly everything else I'm thinking it might look kind of cool to put on an after-market rim.

I'll go dig around on that tire thread.

Thanks

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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2016 - 07:12:27 AM »
Here's mine with 17" front and 18" in the back, I like the look, Foose Wheels. All stock suspension and brakes here, but it will also fit my Wilwoods later.
/ Ken
Restoration thread: http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=102525.0
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Re: Rim ideas, size
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2016 - 08:42:06 AM »
Here's a safe setup tommyg had ... think I would go with a taller sidewall on the rear
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=19470.msg675305#msg675305

Yesss!
finally heres my setup and pictures. I mounted them today: :bigsmile:
American Racing Torque Thrust IIs with BFG g-force T/As
Front:  17x8" w/4" backspace and 245/45
Rear: 17x9.5"w/4.5" backspace and 275/40
Clearance is great all around

These two tires are roughly the same overall height at 25.7", and though I'd prefer 50s front and rear to fill the wheel wells a little more, and maybe give a slightly softer ride, you cant really find that size in a 17". Not with rubber that I like.
I hope you enjoy the look as much as I do. :cheers:





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Re: Rim ideas, size
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2016 - 10:34:27 AM »
I like how you guys politely tease me sometimes.  I am the person who started this post.   Maybe a better question for me to ask is whether or not I have to modify anything if I find a 17-inch rim for the front and back.   I don't know much about cars and I'm learning as I go but I do know I don't want to change a bunch of suspension pieces out to fit a 17 inch tire. 

I don't know why picking a rim is so hard but I like the look of a lot of your cars who have the 17 inch rim on the front and back.

I also like the old hot rod look of a big tire in the back and the small one up front but I don't even know what size of a rim you would run on the front to have that look.

Right now I have 15 inch Mopar Rally rims on the front and back and I have a 275 60 tire on the rear and a 215 65 on the front and I like that look, however since I'm going away from stock on mostly everything else I'm thinking it might look kind of cool to put on an after-market rim.

I'll go dig around on that tire thread.

Thanks

Polite teasing is part of what makes this a neat place to hang out. 

So now you see why I said what I said. There are a lot of personal taste criteria that factor into choosing a wheel and tire combo.

A wide variety of factors go into making sure a combo fits without extensive mods. You can fit a lot of tires sizes and different wheel combos on the stock set up without changing hard parts. The key to it all is understanding the wheel dimension that allow this. IMO, the first place to start would be drawing/graphing out your current combo of wheel size, backspace, offset as well as tire sizes and measurements and then measure space to critical components like fender lips, inner fenders, leaf springs in front and back of the tire ( E body springs are not parallel), etc with the suspension at full turn, compression, etc.  Also check all four wheels as there are variations from side to side on these cars due to original assembly tolerances and 40 years of use, abuse, and changes.

With all this info you can then compare a wheel or tire you are looking at against your current combo to see where it is bigger and may be close to various components and decide if it will safely fit.

For example, your 15x7 Rallye has 3.5 backspace with a 275/60 tire and 3" amount of distance to the rear section of the leaf spring ( just making up numbers here). If you change to an 8" rim with 4.25 backspace, your space to the spring has now been reduced .75" to 2.25" Changing the 275 tire at 10" section width to a 295 at 12" section width with that 8" rim means your tire is 1" closer to the spring (2" wider overall, 1 " per side) so you clearance now is 1.25".  Basic math, but you have to visualize it all.

Or you just beg, borrow,steal a rim sizing tool, bolt it to the hub and calculate the max size you can get.

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Re: Rim ideas, size
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2016 - 07:49:14 AM »
17" all around. Combinations are endless. Paint and wheels have to be the hardest decisions with these cars.

« Last Edit: November 04, 2016 - 07:54:00 AM by dodj »
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Re: Rim ideas, size
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2016 - 08:34:44 AM »
Looks great with the grille all blacked out!
/ Ken
Restoration thread: http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=102525.0
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