CRATE HEMI DISSASTER

[cordodge]

I assumed Roseville was the seller. Sorry for them and Bruce,Dave to have to step in this pile of crap. I can see how the quality is not Rosevilles fault. What a mess for Roseville , Dave and Bruce...!   I'm surprised to hear Barton was the builder. I assumed he was a premier builder of Mopar engines? 

Hey Brad,Yes I bought from Dave, and I will continue to buy my stuff there. they are top notch and it is absolutely nothing to do with Roseville, we both got duped from the builder. where my motor is now (whats left of it) is at the premier builder but like yourself thought barton was very very good bought not this time, like Tim said it was the worst he had ever seen

[1970 RT Challenger 1970]

Is this fairly common or a rare occurance with these Crate Hemis? (The Build Quality)

[RzeroB]

I'm surprised to hear Barton was the builder. I assumed he was a premier builder of Mopar engines? 

I can't believe that it was actually Barton's shop who put it together ... surely they must of subcontracted it out to a high-school shop class or something!

[anlauto]

I was thinking the same thing about Barton subbing stuff out....wonder if that is a possibility ?

This whole line of different people involved and the time past is not looking good.....

Hopefully Fiat will step up and help you out...

[1 Wild R/T]

Is this fairly common or a rare occurance with these Crate Hemis? (The Build Quality)

There have been plenty of problems in the past but this one is exceptionally special... Lots of guys treat the crate as a way to get all the pieces & take it straight to a trusted Hemi builder to sort through the good & the bad...  Amongst the issues there have been plenty of blocks that were porous or have such bad core shift that they aren't useable...But general the rotating assembly is mostly useable....

[cordodge]

I can't believe that it was actually Barton's shop who put it together ... surely they must of subcontracted it out to a high-school shop class or something!

Hey, yeah its amazing how it was assembled. the guy who put it together had to of known it was so bad but just didn't care I guess.

[Racer57]

Hey, yeah its amazing how it was assembled. the guy who put it together had to of known it was so bad but just didn't care I guess.

Had to be intentional. Wonder if it was his last day ?

[cudabob496]

An engine like that should have quality checks along the way, just like
everyone else in industry does. Don't put a guy in a room and ignore
him while he builds a motor, puts it in a box, and ships it!

[cordodge]

An engine like that should have quality checks along the way, just like
everyone else in industry does. Don't put a guy in a room and ignore
him while he builds a motor, puts it in a box, and ships it!

I agree. something personal  maybe, I mean it obviously took time to assemble and for sure not a mistake or something missed, pretty much knew what he was doing was completely wrong and didn't give a s^%t like we'll it's not mine so I don't care.

[cudabob496]

Its really the fault of the company that hired the bozo in the first place to build it.
They should have drug tested him too!

[Topcat]

I agree. something personal  maybe, I mean it obviously took time to assemble and for sure not a mistake or something missed, pretty much knew what he was doing was completely wrong and didn't give a s^%t like we'll it's not mine so I don't care.

Was a Ferd or Cheby lover no doubt. .

[mopardave]

So will the block numbers show who built this motor? And who are these PERFTEC group where I have to send the information to do you know?  also so your saying mopar wont go back on Barton if they actually built it? they only look at arrow.

sorry for the questions Dave just trying to get the info right.

Bruce

all good Bruce,
Arrow is PREFIX, but now JB is the new company doing Blocks only. Prefix has the block contract until this past fall. there has been NO crate Hemis built in the past 2 years that I know of. But I could be wrong as we have not ordered any and None have showed on dealer locator and have been blocked from ordering.

[RzeroB]

There has been NO crate Hemis built in the past 2 years that I know of. But I could be wrong as we have not ordered any and none have showed on dealer locator and have been blocked from ordering.

None? Probably at the direction of Sergio Marchionne I bet!

[cudabob496]

Reason none built? Probably no demand, given some of the stories of past
quality issues.

[cordodge]

Reason none built? Probably no demand, given some of the stories of past
quality issues.

No doult, I sending  the original invoice to the mopar tech guy but I'm expecting nothing. Hopefully he can tell me who built it. Dave believes Barton built it and if it can be confirmed I'll contact Barton with the pics and the findings to see if he will take any responsibility for the motor and make it right but again I'm sure I will not even get a response back.

Very frustrating, After 11 years this may put an end to build. May just cover it and shove it in the corner. I am paying big insurance on it right now and am nowhere near close to driving it. I'm probably looking at 10 grand or more to fix the motor which will be tuff to swallow.

Bruce