New guy from San Diego CA

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Offline rolozcar

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New guy from San Diego CA
« on: December 26, 2016 - 05:16:20 AM »
Hi everyone my name is Rob, I just bought my first 70' cuda project and I want to learn as much as possible since I am doing a full rotisserie restoration on my build. My cuda is basically a roller althought I have most of the interior and chrome moldings. The good thing is that I have the 383 matching numbers block (I would have loved a factory 440 or hemi but this is the first cuda I found that fits my budget and I would like to keep it matching numbers if possible).

So basically all I have is the block by itself, no heads, oil pan,  or any of the accessories. I have been researching but I am having a hard time finding which cars have the same 383 interchangeable parts engine as the cuda so I can rebuild the engine swapping my original block and have the correct PN heads, etc. I have been researching and have found a lot of cars including the 68-71 charger, roadrunner, challenger but most of those engines are very pricey. I have  read some chrysler new yorkers and newport sedans also come with the 383 but I do not know if they are the same since some are 2-barrel and some are 4-barrel. and I have read some 383 are high performance, some magnum, some high compression and some low compression, so I am very confused into which engine should I buy. If anyone recommend me engine options would be great.

I look forward to learning a lot from this forum! thanks.




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Re: New guy from San Diego CA
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2016 - 07:28:28 AM »
Welcome to the site from NY, Rob.   Post some pics of your car when you can. 
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Re: New guy from San Diego CA
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2016 - 07:43:54 AM »
 :wave:   Welcome , post up some pictures when you can.
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Re: New guy from San Diego CA
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2016 - 10:27:35 AM »
Welcome. This is a great site with lots of friendly and knowledgeable folks.

I've had many 383 cars and they were all great performers. You have a great engine and your smart to want to keep the original block rather than just swapping it out for something bigger.

Your 383 should be the 335 horsepower HP version in orange. You need a set of heads ending with casting 906. Very common and found on many big block engines in 1970. Your crankshaft should be a forged one rather than cast but that's not that big a deal unless you are wanting to squeeze over 400 horsepower out of it. The stroke on your 383 is the same as a 400 so you should be able to use rods and crank from either. The shop that assembles your engine will order your pistons, rings, bearings and other stuff for you in a kit so no need to put your energy there. The same shop might even have some of these missing things you need lying around. Very common as they build for customers who often change out original components for after market ones. When they order pistons, they can do all the math and cc your heads to make sure your compression lands where you want it. You may even want them to select a nice camshaft for you. They are usually good at this. Just let them know what sort of power you want, whether you have vacuum brakes, and the idle quality you want. Most people pick the wrong cam and are not happy so there is value in letting an actual engine builder help you select one that will work well with your other components and compression ratio. As far as intake, you can go with the stock HP iron unit which is cheap and plentiful or go with a nice aftermarket one for a boost in power but make sure you pick one that works well with your other components (mainly cam, engine builder can help on this too). The oil pan should be the one with 402 stamped on the bottom (other guys may offer up other versions that will work well).

Good luck with the project!

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Re: New guy from San Diego CA
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2016 - 10:59:40 AM »
Welcome from Utah! :wave: and remember  :useless:
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda.  Matching numbers 440 U Code, 4 speed pistol grip, Rallye dash, AM 8 Track, Shaker hood, 15 inch rallye wheels, Dana 60 4.10, Super Track Pak.  One of 134 - 440 "U" coupes codes built in 1970 and one of 100 - 440 Super Track Paks built in 1970.

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« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2016 - 11:18:14 AM »
Welcome!!  Lots of folks on here really willing to help out so don't be shy. Good luck witht he project and post a few pics when you can.

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Re: New guy from San Diego CA
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2016 - 11:39:59 AM »
If you just have a bare block a 1970 Chrysler with a 383 4 barrel would be a goldmine in parts. Exhaust manifolds and oil pan would be wrong but a lot of stuff would be the same.

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Re: New guy from San Diego CA
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2016 - 12:15:40 PM »
Welcome from California. :wave:
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Re: New guy from San Diego CA
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2016 - 12:52:48 PM »
If your looking for a machine/build shop.  Look into IMM engine or of indio.  They did my 340.  Nothing but praise for them. They are a father son shop that use to race Mopar.  May have some parts you need to, or a place to source them.    And welcome from SD too.

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Re: New guy from San Diego CA
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2016 - 01:34:57 PM »
Hi everyone my name is Rob, I just bought my first 70' cuda project and I want to learn as much as possible since I am doing a full rotisserie restoration on my build. My cuda is basically a roller althought I have most of the interior and chrome moldings.

Throw up a couple pics...you may need to set up a photobucket account or similar and post links rather than resize.

Something else to consider if you haven't already and not knowing your experience with restoration projects, plan this project out first before doing much else. If it were mine, I'd prioritize by:

1)  stripping to bare shell taking tons of photos and bagging/labeling everything you remove.
2) do all work to the shell to the level you want it at including painting. Once stripped, you can ID rust or other needed repairs. You may even want to blast the body clean but you don't always have to.
3) then with the body covered and stored in your garage, I'd turn attention to new brake and fuel lines, rear end installation, and entire front end set up. This part is way easier than it sounds and can be done little by little each night in the garage after work. Plus it's fun putting clean parts back onto a painted car.
4) I like to then do all items at the firewall next before engine. Heater box, wiper arm assembly, master cylinder set up, etc.
5) then I'd turn attention to engine and trans. Some folks like to set this up on the k frame and install as one unit with the front suspension. Not a bad way to go but dropping an engine in from the topside is also a real piece of cake. For a first timer, it might be less intimidating to get the front end all installed first and do the power train as a later step.
6) with engine in, I like to get the electrical and exhaust going next so I can break in the engine. Hearing your car for the first time is really a spectacular experience. Never tire of it.
7) Eventually, the hood and other painter sheet metal can go back on spending extra time and care on alignment.
8) I like to save stuff like bumpers, door handles, lights, interior for last but some of it can go on sooner if its ready. I try to save chroming, trim polishing, interior stuff for last because it's so expensive.
9) plan out glass install. You may want dash in before windshield. You also want trim clips in before glass. you may also want the headliner in first since it's harder with the glass in.


I only mention this because many folks spend a year or two gathering what they think they need before starting the project. They trip over everything, forget what they bought, lose or break stuff they are storing, go broke doing nothing but shopping and see zero forward momentum which can be a real drag. And of course we see guys like that lose interest and sell out. That's always sad to see. With my way, you will constantly see real progress from the start and you can spread the costs over a longer period which usually is important for most of us on a budget. Your engine block will store nicely in the corner of your garage until your ready. Harder to store an assembled engine and why spend $3k a year before you need to.


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Re: New guy from San Diego CA
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2016 - 01:41:12 AM »
Hey Rob, welcome to the site from  :canada:. Check out Hot Rod or You tube for info on your 383. HR did a build with Steve Dulcich on a 383 that might be interesting to you.  :cheers:

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Re: New guy from San Diego CA
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2016 - 02:01:25 AM »
Thanks a lot guys for your suggestions! I did not expect to hear that soon from you guys in the forum helping me out. So now I feel in debt, I am out of town at the moment but here are a few pics of my 'cuda and some pics of my other project (1971 roadrunner), I hope you guys don't hate the B-bodys that much because I don't want to get flagged haha. Although I have to say the 'cuda is definitely my favorite. My 'cuda is an original EF8 Ivy Green Metallic with black vinyl top, what do you guys think about that color? I am debating if I should keep it original or maybe switching colors since I have the matching numbers block but not the original 727 transmission. By the way, it also has factory power windows, luggage rack, rear defrost, along with a lot of other options since it is a Y13 car (dealer demo). Anyways, here are the pics, let me know what you think, thanks.

70 ‘cuda arrival along with the donors roof/upper quarter panels

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh507/rolozcar/20161221_124254_zpsdkuxeapl.jpg

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh507/rolozcar/20161221_124227_zpstack0hsz.jpg

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh507/rolozcar/20161221_143122_zpsw818tdbk.jpg

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh507/rolozcar/20161221_141924_zps8iiexu7g.jpg

‘Cuda currently resting at home until the current project (1971 roadrunner) gets finished (1 more month estimate), or the wifey calls a tow truck to take it to the recycling junk yard, whichever comes first.

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh507/rolozcar/20161223_125344_zpsr67snzzr.jpg

Finish Restoration 70’ Cuda EF8 Color (With Correct Black Vinyl Top)

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh507/rolozcar/70CU-10-1_zpseyiqrkfc.jpg

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh507/rolozcar/70CU-10-1_zpskhblxol2.jpg

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http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh507/rolozcar/P1010025_zpshd6kddrg.jpg

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh507/rolozcar/1970-plymouth-barracuda-stock-side-front-three-quarter-alt_zps0srxg9iq.jpg


Some pics of my first Mopar restoration, 1971 Roadrunner 383/auto

Started by dismantling and replacing Roof, Flinstones floor pans and lower quarters

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh507/rolozcar/20160924_151103_zpsakwwiisb.jpg

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http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh507/rolozcar/20160924_120417_zpsfiaaudoy.jpg

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http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh507/rolozcar/20160923_150427_zpsiie0l3bi.jpg

Dustless Blasting Time (Crushed Glass, not so dustless and a LOT of mess)

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh507/rolozcar/20161008_133012_zpsersgb7dm.jpg

Finishing up Metal Work

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh507/rolozcar/20161025_130034_zpswawwvqho.jpg

Rebuilt Matching Numbers Roadrunner 383

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh507/rolozcar/20161025_125654_zps1s8ddeuw.jpg

Paint Prep ( Upcoming EL5 Bahama Yellow/ Butterskotch)

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh507/rolozcar/20161223_132809_zpsn5c2rjmc.jpg

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh507/rolozcar/20161214_131552_zpsvmq3sb0l.jpg

Painted Engine Bay area

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh507/rolozcar/20161217_144156_zpsku9a1i12.jpg

Painted K-Frame (Ready to Drop the 383)

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh507/rolozcar/20161221_152019_zpsmtavnirq.jpg

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh507/rolozcar/20161221_152015_zpsudrzqg4j.jpg

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh507/rolozcar/20161221_152005_zpsuzvvjajj.jpg

Finished EL5 1971 Roadrunner with Correct Black Vinyl Top goal

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh507/rolozcar/003_zpsswlxz6ib.jpg





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Re: New guy from San Diego CA
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2016 - 10:45:27 AM »
If your looking for a machine/build shop.  Look into IMM engine or of indio.  They did my 340.  Nothing but praise for them. They are a father son shop that use to race Mopar.  May have some parts you need to, or a place to source them.    And welcome from SD too.

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Welcome!  :wave:  And another vote for Indio Motor and Machine (IMM) if you plan on having the motor done.  Brian and his Dad built my 440, four years ago and it is still running great.



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Re: New guy from San Diego CA
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2016 - 07:41:11 PM »
I love that dark green color with the black. I know many people hate it but I have always found it really appealing for some reason.