Yup this is a painful thread.
You can't have pleasure unless you feel pain.
A story of mine:
1981 or 82'
Stationed at Ft. Campbell Ky.
Went to a junk yard full of stinging nettle.
Saw a convertible peering thru the nettle.
It was a white coronet R/T convertible.
I was so swollen up from the nettle, I never went back again after that.