Windage Trays - Lets talk

[1 Wild R/T]

Some have had good luck with the Mancini part, others not so much.... The issue is the groove the seal sits in in the block doesn't line up with the groove the seal sit in in the retainer when the retainer bolts are installed.... So the two seal haves are misaligned which is something offsetting the seal 90 degrees makes very obvious cause you can't start the bolts in the block....

Hopefully the pan will fix it for you.... 

[Cazbah362]

1 Wild R/T:  Update, so dropped the pan and windage tray without undoing engine bolts or shroud.  When I did, the 440 Source pickup fell off, it sheared right at the threads.  Luckily the remainder of the pickup came out without issue.  I did notice a random bounce on the way home with the car, but wrote it away to low oil due to the amount I was spewing.  On the passenger side, the leak was the worst, I did not see any issues there other than the RTV was not sealed?  On the rear, the two rear main studs are a little high and they had been rubbing on the steel windage tray.  How my dumb ass missed this on build scares me a bit, so that why the rears didn't seal. 

New windage tray in - misses the two back studs along with the pan (This was checked and triple checked).  On warm of with 6 quarts, no issues (yet) - appears to be sealed tight!  Also, followed others advice, no RTV at all.  Very cool tray/pan gasket.

440Source is in my town. So when I took the pickup in they said "we have never seen this before."  Yea right - other than the last one I brought in?  Yes, I had another pickup fail on me in the same fashion about 4 years ago - like the windage tray, I swore I would never use one again.  They gave my money back, didn't ask about the cheap ass windage tray, figured I will mark that one up to hard stupid lessons learned.

Thanks for the help - Oh and went to Summit, bought a Mopar Performance pickup -

Thank you and any ribbing I get for missing the studs - well deserved.

[Chryco Psycho]

At least you got it solved the second time around 

[Cazbah362]

Chryco - did and thank you also for your input.

[1 Wild R/T]

Glad to hear it's looking good... Thank god the pickup failure didn't take out the whole engine...

[Mopar Mitch]

Sealer on gaskets?.... simple rule-of-thumb:  Just apply a small dab of sealer (rtv) at corner joints where gaskets intersect (one-piece gaskets... nothing needed);  rubber gaskets best installed DRY (molded silicone MUST be installed dry).   For this unique piece from Jegs/Summit, etc, install it dry.

Applying sealer onto/across rubber gaskets only welcomes splitting and shifting of the rubber gasket (like applying grease... allows slippage/splitting better!).

(I was a past gasket engineer for Fel-Pro... gave hundreds of seminars; wrote the books/instructions for gasket installations.)