Borgeson or Firm Feel Steering Box?

[Killerinc]

Borgeson or Firm Feel Steering Box?
Which would you go with?
I want to put it in a Dodge Challenger

[xtopfuel]

hoping you get good replies, I was thinking about the same in my 72 as it steers like super easy, wanting a bit firmer

[Bullitt-]

hoping you get good replies, I was thinking about the same in my 72 as it steers like super easy, wanting a bit firmer

You might be happy with the pump tweak http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=97681.msg960544#msg960544

[Rickster]

 Can't comment on the Borgenson pump as I have no experience with it. But I did send mine to Firm Feel and had it rebuilt to Level 3 firmness. Absolutely love how it handles now (71 Challenger)! Read many posts of people trying to decide on Level 2 or Level 3. Saw quite a few that wished they had gone firmer with 3 instead of 2, but read no one who regretted the tighter Level 3.

[Killerinc]

You might be happy with the pump tweak http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=97681.msg960544#msg960544

When i went to the PDF link it doesn't work.
Do you have it by chance?

[Bullitt-]

When i went to the PDF link it doesn't work.
Do you have it by chance?

  Looks like the site is gone ... There's  kit's out there I see plenty of references to adding shims to the valve... same for many GM and any make running Saginaw pump



http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=115102.msg1128041#msg1128041

Borgeson instructions include drilling a hole, haven't heard of that before.
https://www.borgeson.com/xcart/product.php?productid=1684

http://www.billshotrodcompany.com/17022.html

[mjb765]

Another one with no experience with the Borgeson, but I like the way the Firm Feel stage 3 handles.

[dodj]

No experience with borgeson, though if I remember right, it is significantly lighter than the original box, but slightly more expensive to install.
I have a stage 2 unit from Stear 'n' Gear. Happy with it. They are a better deal if you live on the east side of the continent. Firm feel for the west side.

[jimynick]

I'm in Ontario, Canada and had Firm Feel rebuild my Challenger's box to Stage 3 and it works very well. It's not too heavy and not too light; sorta the Goldilocks version of steering boxes. I'd recommend them unless you need a much smaller box, which would be the only real reason to go to the Borgeson in my opinion. 

[xtopfuel]

great info mine has about 1/3 a wheel free play

[jimynick]

Mine has less than a 16th- very little.

[Killerinc]

I'm in Ontario, Canada and had Firm Feel rebuild my Challenger's box to Stage 3 and it works very well. It's not too heavy and not too light; sorta the Goldilocks version of steering boxes. I'd recommend them unless you need a much smaller box, which would be the only real reason to go to the Borgeson in my opinion. 

That's true but i thought not only would it be lighter and smaller but would be a more modern unit

[xtopfuel]

does firm feel rebuild mine or send me theirs and I send them core?

[mjb765]

does firm feel rebuild mine or send me theirs and I send them core?

When I had mine done a few months ago they said they were low on cores and if I could send mine and they would rebuild it. But in the end, my housing was no good and they supplied a complete unit.

[xtopfuel]

Turn around time?