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Offline Newell33

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Alternator Field Wire / Electric Choke Issue
« on: May 03, 2017 - 05:41:13 PM »
Hi Guys

I've only had my '72 Cuda running a couple of times recently as I've been updating some of the wiring.  I've completed the Mad Electrical update, and have made quite a few other improvements.  Currently, the blue field wire from the alternator is connected to the positive terminal on the electric choke (Holley 4160).  The wire then continues to the regulator as it should.  While running, I noticed that the voltage was too high at 17 to 18 volts.  The regulator is new as the old one was rusty (changed more for aesthetics).  I swapped the new one for the old, and had the same problem.  I've also made sure the unit is properly grounded to the firewall. 

During testing with my multi-meter, I noticed that I had continuity from the blue wire at the regulator plug to the engine block.  I didn't think this was right, so my continued testing led me back to the electric choke unit.  When I unhooked the connector, I noticed I have continuity from the positive terminal on the choke to the negative /ground choke terminal, which is why I had continuity from the blue regulator plug to the engine block.  I tested another Quick Fuel carburetor I had on another car, and there was no continuity between the choke terminals.  I pulled the unit off and inspected the bi-metallic strip, but didn't see any obvious issues.  This leads me to a couple of questions.

1.  Can I assume that the blue field wire shorted to ground is what is causing the alternator to overcharge?

2.  Can I assume that the electric choke unit on the carburetor is bad?  Or should I instead be measuring the resistance between the two terminals to determine if the unit is bad?

Thanks in advance for the assistance.       




Offline Beekeeper

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Re: Alternator Field Wire / Electric Choke Issue
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2017 - 10:21:35 PM »
not the best guy for electrical advice but first thing I'd do is find a better source of switched power for your choke. I have never heard of using a field wire for this purpose so it's hard to diagnose what's going on.

I'm curious to see what some of the other folks say who understand electrical stuff well.

Offline 73_Cuda_4_Me

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Re: Alternator Field Wire / Electric Choke Issue
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2017 - 04:37:27 PM »
On my 73, there is a dark blue wire coming off regulator IGN that goes to the electric choke voltage splitter on intake (it drops the 12 volt down to about 5 volts so choke heater is slower coming off full choke)... that is spliced into 12 volt lines coming off ballast resistor. It also goes to one of the field terminals on the alternator (my alternator has two field terminals)

There is a dark green wire on the other field terminal of alternator that goes directly to the field terminal of regulator...
1973 Plymouth Cuda BS23H3B567783

R11 V6X EN2
M21 M25 M31 M88 N41 N42
V1X U B41 C56 G37 J54
JY9 A6X9 0 703 501616
E55 D34 BS23 H3B 567783

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Re: Alternator Field Wire / Electric Choke Issue
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2017 - 04:53:38 PM »
On my 73, there is a dark blue wire coming off regulator IGN that goes to the electric choke voltage splitter on intake (it drops the 12 volt down to about 5 volts so choke heater is slower coming off full choke)... that is spliced into 12 volt lines coming off ballast resistor. It also goes to one of the field terminals on the alternator (my alternator has two field terminals)

There is a dark green wire on the other field terminal of alternator that goes directly to the field terminal of regulator...

How interesting...I've never dealt much with stuff newer than 70 so I wrongly assumed the other early 70 stuff would be the same. I'll have to continue following this post to learn more.

Offline 73_Cuda_4_Me

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Re: Alternator Field Wire / Electric Choke Issue
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2017 - 05:42:30 PM »
Beekeeper,
The 73 has an electronic voltage regulator, and my guess is 72 'may' be the same, not sure about earlier...

I believe the IGN blue wire is from ignition switch, powering up misc 12 volt stuff in engine bay, including ballast resistor, choke, and one side of alternator field wiring, and the green one on other side of field on alternator goes back to regulator to control amount of charge alternator puts out...
1973 Plymouth Cuda BS23H3B567783

R11 V6X EN2
M21 M25 M31 M88 N41 N42
V1X U B41 C56 G37 J54
JY9 A6X9 0 703 501616
E55 D34 BS23 H3B 567783

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Re: Alternator Field Wire / Electric Choke Issue
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2017 - 07:07:12 PM »
That's why I love this forum....learn new stuff regularly.